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Old 03-07-2005, 02:30 PM
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Hate to say it, but we diesel owners are taking it in the shorts. Diesel prices in Washington State are outragious. $1.99 about 2 weeks ago. Saw a sign for $2.85 in Gorst, WA. Roughly $2.65 - 2.75 else where that I have seen. Cost me $75.00 Saturday to fill up. Then some Govt political yokel has the nerve to say on TV that we are just catching up our European counterparts. And to expect a barrel to crude oil to reach $80.00 a barrel. $80.00 would put diesel at about $5.00 a gallon considering it was $53.00 when he stated this. Then this morning, there is talk about raising min wage to $7.35 hr, (much needed to help balance to price of gas) but a hand full of political a&& holes are against it. What next!!!!!!!!!!
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This really sucks... Being a 20 year old with this new truck, school, 2 jobs, I hardly have enough money to pay for diesel these days... Thanks God i still live at home!
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Add home ownership and ALL it's associated bills, auto/RV insurance, 3 kids (1 being a teen of age to drive) with seperate outdoor activities, our personal toys 24' toy hauler, atv's, dirt bikes, bmx/mtb bikes. Not to mention all the other stuff that does'nt come to mind right off hand. I guess this is the price you pay to play, and the stakes are going up.
Hang in there young man, you seem to be on the right track in life.
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Anyone here used biodiesel? Wish we had it in FL.
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They've been saying all last weekend that gas is probably going to go up by a quarter by summer. But... in theory, diesel should come down over the summer as the demand for heating oil slackens with the warmer weather. I'm not holding my breath!
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in theory being the key words... I sure hope it goes down. I heard on the radio the other day that AAA said there was no way a price increase of 30 cents on gas would happen, they said it was just impossible

BTW thanks 01350banshee for the kind encouragement
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Last spring a coaching friend of mine who works as a service mgr at a local chevy dealer said thru his sourses gas/diesel would reach and exceed the $2.00 mark over the summer, which it did. So, as things seem to be going, I feel we will see $3.00 by the summer somewhere in the country (ie CA or WA). Also, in this mornings local paper the Tacoma tribune some jack a&& said he hopes that gas reaches $5.00 a gallon that way he will have less traffic and congestion to deal with. Unless that yokel is filthy rich, using a company car with paid fuel expenses or uses a true hybrid he'll be hit with the increased cost also. Some peoples kids!!!!
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Originally posted by HorseHauler
in theory being the key words... I sure hope it goes down. I heard on the radio the other day that AAA said there was no way a price increase of 30 cents on gas would happen, they said it was just impossible

BTW thanks 01350banshee for the kind encouragement
I think AAA might be a little off on this one. A about two weeks ago diesel was 1.79 by my house, now it is $2.05 a gallon. That is a .26 cent per gallon increase in just over two weeks. At that rate we will see the $3.00 mark for fuel. At that point my beloved CTD will be parked, and I will be riding a bicycle to work. It is going to be really hard explaining to clients how we will be getting to lunch!!
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I still think that oil companies are gouging everyone! Nothing has price swings like fuel! Mobil posted record profits last year. And we all helped make that profit! And of course the republican government is not going to stop it from happening. Free trade, free business right...screw the little guy! I will be suprised if they raise the min. wage. That means business would actually have to pay their employees.... Don't even get me started.
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oil companies have no ability to raise prices as oil is a publically traded commidity. that being said gas stations have control of thier prices and a raise in the price of crude oil thaes 8 weeks to reach them so thats where greed is. also there is no shortage of oil either in reserves or on the market and the rise in crude futures is to quote alan greenspan irrational exuberence. the easy way to break this is to reduce consumption however this time most people just complain and do nothing so why would anyone lower the price. Use less.
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Originally posted by spudman
oil companies have no ability to raise prices as oil is a publically traded commidity. that being said gas stations have control of thier prices and a raise in the price of crude oil thaes 8 weeks to reach them so thats where greed is. also there is no shortage of oil either in reserves or on the market and the rise in crude futures is to quote alan greenspan irrational exuberence. the easy way to break this is to reduce consumption however this time most people just complain and do nothing so why would anyone lower the price. Use less.
I'm going to do something come warmer weather: ride my bike to work.

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Free trade, free business right...
So... you advocate socialism or communism? Or would you have the government set all the prices? Or just the ones that are too high? I mean... I want to buy a house here in Newport, RI... but I'm not sure I can afford one. That's the free market. Should I go to the town council and ask them to lower the price of the house I want? What about our trucks? They're pretty expensive and I know some people who would like one, but... well, the free market pricing puts them out of their range. Should I have them call their Representative or Senator to pass a bill to force DC to lower the price of CTD Rams?

You're right. The Republican government isn't going to change this. Nor is the Democratic government. The Communist government might, though.... As spudman says, do something about it. Cut down your mileage. Get a more fuel efficient vehicle. Ride a bike. Or a motorcycle. Or walk. You're not getting screwed - you determine your fuel useage in the vehicle you choose to drive and the amount of driving you do. (you is in the generic sense here - we're all in the same boat).

And if you look elsewhere in the forums, you'll find another thread with a chart showing the real fuel cost adjusted for inflation and it's been pretty stable for the past 20 years or so. Really, there's nothing to get started on here.
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i'm so glad to hear from someone who acts instead of complaining. I have not put even half a tank through my truck in the last month. I use the jetta as much as possible and I'm not even driving that as much. if the majority of us did the same the price would not be as high.
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most of us have to support families which often means commuting long distances to where the pay is good. I also have to accept the brunt of the problem I have in front of me to support my way of life and the rewards I work so hard for. In my case public transpoprtation is not an option, biking is out of the question (can't pack 3 kids on it 50 plus round trip miles), carpooling, impractical because if kids are sick at school, I have no immediate way to get to them. I need not go any farther. As a nation we have created this problem and as a nation we must try to fix it. Maybe, I'll go out and get me a hybrid that cost more than my current vehicle, that is'nt proven or showed real reliability to pull my toy hauler. What ever!!! Last I saw, the majority of diesel was used in the trucking/industrial industry, not by the average commuter. Spend a day in NYC at the NYSE. Then tell me who's in charge. Definately not the blue collar worker.
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Amen 01350banshee!

I have yet to understand why half of the common men these days support the elite uncommon men and women that are running this country.

Certain goods must be monitored by the government. Lets take prescription drugs for instance. The prices are outragous! I think everyone will agree on that. The prices in general have increased dramatically just in the last few years. Why? To make more money. Its plain and simple. Of course the government could step in....but hey its a free market. I mean its not the drug compainies fault that poor people can't afford drugs or insurance. They should go back to school and get a high paying job! Is that crazy or what??!!! That is the mentaillty of our current government and apparently half the population of the U.S. No sympathy for the our fellow neighbor. It is disgusting and typical of big business, good ol' boy government and business.

So should oil prices be controlled to some reasonable level like drugs should be? Certainly. Everything we do requires oil. Driving, making plastics, defense, agriculture, etc...it all takes oil. Of course the oil companies and everyone else in the oil chain knows this. So raise those prices. They'll pay. What choice do they have... And besides half the population of the U.S. doesn't care anyway.

On a side note. Remember free trade and free business leads to jobs going to China and Mexico. The rich get richer. And the blue collar men and women go home broke to their hungry kids. Government must take care of its people..not just its companies.

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I'm with ya man. I often read post here and wonder whose side some of these folks are on. Trust me, dealing with tree huggers and liberals all day make for an interesting day at work.


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