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Old 04-25-2011 | 10:50 AM
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Finally finished deletes my question is I followed blakes calif. deletes thread and every thing works good. I went with the sw1 setting on smarty to save auto trans while pulling toy hauler. I tried sw 3 and the truck really hauls *** hard to keep tires from smoking but man what a ride !!!! anyway I have no codes and every thing seems fine. Do I need to disconnect sensors at the nox canistor or leave hooked up ? did not see any directions as to this process . Directions say there are 5 but on my 2008 the fifth from the rear of the truck is on the nox. there are 2 sensors that go to the nox. my delete pipe removes the 2 canistors dpf and in front next to dpf I dont know what that is ? anyway it's removed. Second question...does the sw1 program delete the 4th injection cycle as theres is no dpf to burn the extra fuel ? any answers would be helpfull. What kind of fuel milage improvements should I be seeing stock was 10.9 -12.9 EMPTY NO LOAD...

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Old 04-25-2011 | 11:58 AM
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You can disconnect all sensors in the exhaust with the ME software in use. I have left a couple hooked up just due to plugging a hole in the DPF delete pipe I bought. It had a bung for the O2 sensor so I just left it in the system. But its able to run a full delete exhaust system with no sensors in place.

The ME software on any level removes the 4th injection event and does not perform any regen cycles. Also it removes the EGR function as well.

Mileage should improve a good couple of MPG depending on usage. My last tank was highway only with a mix of winter/spring diesel, 70 mph with only minor load. 18.4 mpgUS.
Old 04-25-2011 | 01:13 PM
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I followed your previous advice concerning the question of the ME program.
I plugged the unit into the computer and sure nuff it says ME. although I don't know much about weather it automatically just downloads the ME software or if there is something i'm missing. Probbley just over thinking the situation all I can say is on sw3 she will definetly roll some smoke and is much faster. Just getting ready for vacation and don't want to be stranded pulling trailer in the rockeys. trying to dot all my I'S AND CROSS MY T'S Before I leave any input i would be gratefull. The directions on the smarty could have been better...kinda vague....

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Old 04-26-2011 | 07:48 AM
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If your Smarty reads "ME Version" when you plug it in, it does download the ME version. Even if you set it at stock, the emissions are deleted/turned off.
Mine does around 17 or 18 mixed state road and city driving, and I have seen as high as 22 on the interstate, this is unloaded mileage. haven't towed yet.
Good luck, you'll love it
Old 04-26-2011 | 08:30 AM
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Thanks for all the help guys---- it's truly appreacated !
Old 04-27-2011 | 09:29 AM
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Cleaner oil

With calif. Deletes will i be seeing cleaner oil. I assume the egr is disabled so it won't be re-circulating that soot crap back into the oil ? Will it effect the turbo that craps got to be going somewhere ? I also assume that now it's being pushed thru the turbo will this shorten the life of turbo ?

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Old 04-27-2011 | 09:45 AM
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If you removed the egr actuator plunger from the egr actuator motor, and plugged your egr tube then yes, you will not have the soot running back into your engine, and will have cleaner oil. It will keep the inside of your engine soot free and will help your turbo. With egr removed/disabled, you can also get away from the CJ-4 oil. I have always used Amsoil 15W-40 heavy duty diesel and marine oil in my 5.9 cummins engines. On my '03 5.9, I was using 25k mile oil changes, with just changing the filter and adding makeup oil @ 5k mile intervals.
Old 04-27-2011 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MARK VAN MARTER
With calif. Deletes will i be seeing cleaner oil. I assume the egr is disabled so it won't be re-circulating that soot crap back into the oil ? Will it effect the turbo that craps got to be going somewhere ? I also assume that now it's being pushed thru the turbo will this shorten the life of turbo ?

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Yes, you will have cleaner oil! Yes, that soot will not be pumped back in to the motor to cause internal havoc. Yes, it will affect the turbo for the better. Prior to the junk added, the soot is just pumped on through and the turbo is generally fine and nothing will accumulate. This is what you will now have. It is the cans down the line that stop things up and can cause the soot to accumulate in the turbo... You are good to go!
Old 04-27-2011 | 01:15 PM
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I am told that the Smarty ME version disables the EGR valve and there is no reason to unplug or remove the plunger.
Old 04-27-2011 | 01:40 PM
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I am told that the Smarty ME version disables the EGR valve and there is no reason to unplug or remove the plunger.
Here's some reading for you:
http://www.madselectronics.com/CodeF...EGRDelete.html
Old 04-27-2011 | 01:52 PM
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I am told that the Smarty ME version disables the EGR valve and there is no reason to unplug or remove the plunger.
This is only for the S version, I believe, as the EGR is commanded to 0% there. Probably the same for the ME version except that the plunger is to be removed to make double sure that the valve does not move and can ultmated be removed and blocked off as many like to do and clean up the engine compartment. Also, I think that key-on will move the EGR to open at start up no matter what (this is how it is removed in the first place with the key on it pops up and you can pull it out...) .The motor must be connected still to avoid a HP derate because the programming and circuitry is such that it needs to see the connection. I would think some sims (resitors) could be connected instead though if someone were to figure that out.

So, the EGR motor should never really (in the most ideal sense) be unplugged and I'm not sure exactly what would happen if the plunger was not removed for the ME version...
Old 04-27-2011 | 02:03 PM
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From the mads "me" installation page:


Required EGR / Throttle valve / EGR Cooler modifications :
There are two possible ways to delete the components in the engine bay.

1--Disconnect only the throttle valve connector and block of the EGR. In this case all other connectors and
components can remain in place.

2--Remove the EGR system entirely. Then all components, EXCEPT the EGR actuator motor, can be unplugged and
taken off.
Old 04-28-2011 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jdinny
If you removed the egr actuator plunger from the egr actuator motor, and plugged your egr tube then yes, you will not have the soot running back into your engine, and will have cleaner oil. It will keep the inside of your engine soot free and will help your turbo. With egr removed/disabled, you can also get away from the CJ-4 oil. I have always used Amsoil 15W-40 heavy duty diesel and marine oil in my 5.9 cummins engines. On my '03 5.9, I was using 25k mile oil changes, with just changing the filter and adding makeup oil @ 5k mile intervals.
I've heard about the (new) cj-4 which has been around for awhile, some people say if you can find the oil before cj-4 came out, to use that. so is the amsoil pre cj-4? I've used motorcraft 15-40 in my 08, eversince the 1st oil change, every 5000 miles, what is the reason for using the pre cj-4 oil, since deleting? Could I switch over to a non cj-4 oil, at any time, for the better of the motor? thanks
Old 04-28-2011 | 06:20 AM
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If you are deleted, then yes, you can switch over at any time. The non-deleted trucks need to use the CJ-4 oils. The deleted trucks can benifit from the higher TBN levels of the HD Diesel & Marine oil. My truck had 50k miles on it when I bought it. I deleted the dpf(stock downpipe and muffler left on), and blocked the egr. ran it for a couple of weeks and changed over to Amsoil 15w-40 HD Diesel & Marine. I use a bottle of engine flush when I switch over to synthetic.
Old 04-28-2011 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jdinny
If you are deleted, then yes, you can switch over at any time. The non-deleted trucks need to use the CJ-4 oils. The deleted trucks can benifit from the higher TBN levels of the HD Diesel & Marine oil. My truck had 50k miles on it when I bought it. I deleted the dpf(stock downpipe and muffler left on), and blocked the egr. ran it for a couple of weeks and changed over to Amsoil 15w-40 HD Diesel & Marine. I use a bottle of engine flush when I switch over to synthetic.
I may do that, I get the preferred price thru amsoil, do you do the amsoil filter also, and what kind of flush. I did'nt mean to hyjack the thread, figured it would be useful for all the people runng delete free


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