I just got my Edge juice with attitude, and it is for the 03-04 5.9, NOT the 04.5 600 series (I have the 600). Anyone tried running this? Edge told me that the only difference is that the 03-04 Juice Module adds fuel pressure, where the 04.5 does not.

 

Wanna sell it??

 

I think it would be silly to try running it on a 600 (seriously) - and you should sell it to Hoss, who will fully enjoy it

 

they can't just reflash it for you? Did edge tell yo uto go ahead and run it?

 

I had the same experience for an 05. I sent it back in and they flashed it and sent it back. Just make sure you request they overnight it otherwise they take there time

 

Oh and by the way. I hooked it to the guys truck yesterday with the a2. Holy Moly that thing moves

 

I have installed it and it seems to really Edit and get, I love it and have seen no problems yet in a week. My only concern is that my turbo is boosting up to 39 psi, what are you guys seeing with your Cummins? Thanks

 

your Edge Juice boost showing is innacurate after 32PSI due to boost fooling. i dont think you hit 39psi

 

It was probably more like 42-44 PSI. The boost reading you are seeing is from the data port and not what was actually achieved. The only way to get the true boost reading is by going directly to the source with a mechanical gauge.

 

A stock turbo spinning 42-44 psi I don,t think so if it does its about to come apart very quickly! One good bark and kiss that baby goodbye!
I would have to say at that psi he's got the wastegate welded shut!

 

Stock, the turbo will reach 40 all day long with a mechanical gauge. The juice does boost fooling and reports whatever the ECU needs to see. With the attitude, you are seeing the boost that is fooled from the data port so it will read lower than what is actually occuring. Are you suggesting that the data port is wrong? With my Juice and EZ I see over 40 all of the time. Yes, I have barked the turbo at that boost as well and so far all is good. I don't recommend doing that even at lower PSI but it happens.

 

The Edge gets the boost (maps) signal before the ECM does it not? When I installed mine, it was manifol absolute press sen, fuel rail pres sen, injectors, data port, pyro, power and attitude. Dosen't it catch all the signals and just lie to the ecm saying that all is well in cummalong land while telling the injectors to go hard? If the ecm actually saw anything over 20 psi wouldn't it throw a code? Same with the fuel rail pressure? My edge defuels at 36 psi as stated in the manual. I saw 38 once. Granted, I haven't plumbed a boost gage into the cab but I think it's pretty accurate.

 

My suggestion is you don't see 40 psi + from a stocker and be ok.
Most topic are I blew my turbo trying to hit 40+ out of stocker.
Because he had a boost elbow that keeps his wastegate shut to long.
I would have not spent $2000 on a upgrade if my stock could hang and put out 40+ and stock wastegates open at about 30 psi.
I myself don't see it for long?

 

Could the difference be your 03 SO? I just can't get past the fact that on several 04.5's and 05's that I know with analog boost gauges hitting 40 PSI on a regular basis but these are 600 and 610's. These are basically stock trucks, maybe some exhaust and intake but otherwise stock. I've talked with a lot of guys who have tons of experience and they suggest the stock turbo on 600's are ok until 45 PSI, anything more and watch out. I have my Attitude set to defuel at 42 PSI currently.

I'm not trying to argue but I just wonder why now everything that I've seen and personally witnessed is just not happening.

BTW, you can't put a boost elbow on a 600/610, the wastegate is electronically controlled.

 

On 600/610's Edge will tell you if you call them about the boost fooling and their Attitude boost display. Because they are showing you the stock signal/boost reading, you are getting the fooled number. The argument is where the Attitude is accurate to. Edge will tell you though that they will not increase boost enough to do damage to your stock setup. FWIW.

You're right about the signals. Basically I think they just clamp the voltage so as to not go over the limit as defined by the stock module and any given sensor; 0-5 volts typically is the range. Once this is done the Edge module basically does whatever it wants while the OEM modules think everything is ok in "cummalong land" as you say. They drive the injectors at that point and the stock system has no idea whats going on. That's the beauty of an inline module. Once you take it off, you can't tell it was there unlike programmers.