Forrest Nearing

lmao!

you happen to hear about the 12v breaking 1200hp???????

ever hear of a 12v melting down an engine from hanging an injector?

the 3rd gens make some great power, and they have many positive features over the old mechanical engines, but to argue that a 3rd gen sounds better than ANY other Cummins or that the 12v is inferior is just ignorant!

they didn't smash the 12v in 4yrs... the 12v was pushed out in 98... seems like it took almost 10yrs for them to "smash" the 12v (which they still haven't)

if it weren't for the EPA, the new Dodges would still have 12v engines in them... far better fuel efficiency, far better reliability, etc.

Forrest Nearing

oh, and the 3rd gen sounds like the retarded cousin of a real engine... and a straight piped 3rd gen sounds like a flock of geese farting

Pooter

Hey now

It cant help it, its all its got...

Muddin_dude06

It's all a matter of personal preference, I think the 12v's SOUND the best but the CR's are the loudest. Thats my opinion, not everyone else shares it though.

tbarbee1

I have both, the 12v is topps over my 07 CR . 12Vsounds like a D8 CAT on steroids my 07 sounds too refined and it drones horribly I ended up putting a walker muffler on it and i dont care how fast the "computer" is you cant beat the response of a throttle cable

stock03

IMO, 12 valves sound beter a low RPM, when they're pulling a heavy load. CR's sound great when they're revving high.

kelownadiesel

Ya ,what forrest said,a guy smashed 1200 the other day.Not only that ,look at the pulling trucks from scheid.They make like 1700.You should be more informed before you make foolish comments.The p pump was only out for 5 years as well,they cant have the trucks too reliable,otherwise the parts guys would go broke.

COUNTRYBOY

Bottom line is that the 12 valve layed the foundation for the new common rail trucks. A cummins is a Cummins and no matter a 12, 24 or common rail diesel, they all sound better than than the other two so called diesel brands. Why anyone would call a 12 valve a piece of crap is beyond me. Why do you even drive a Cummins if your going to call it a piece of crap? Maybe you should go try a 6.4... (LMAO)

Dan Marino

WOW I like the way they all sound. I have owned them all and still own a 12 valve. I cant believe you guys are arguing amongst yourselves. BTW who cares what they sound like, or look like, what wheels they got...the bottom line is what they run like and their longevity.

greyrig05

i never said anything about commonrails not having power. yea i heard about rc ***. hopefully his tranny will hold to get some 1/4 mile times. I never said anything about power between the two. I just happen to like the way 12vs sound at 5k RPMs. But hey has anyone heard as commonrail at 5k? james

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lol @ ppl. ragging on the 12valve, u guys are crazy.

12v straight piped ftw, as far as sound goes.

Dan Marino

I think that guys who say they hate the sound of a 12 valve would be like saying they hate their grandpa. And a 12 valve guy saying they hate the sound of a CR would be like saying they hate their grandson...darn whippersnappers

JD Dearden

I like them both but perfer the idle sound of the 12 valve

ramtd02

I personally like the 12 valve at idle and upto about 1600 rpms, the 24 valves take 2nd upto 1600 and first upto about 2200, but a raging 600+ hp CR at wot 2200+ rpms takes the high end sound. But hey I lik'em all!!

nfsommer

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