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What is the highest hp dyno'd on stock injectors on a "600"?

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Old 01-25-2006 | 07:19 PM
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CLDL and TST

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Guys, That is why the Crazy Larry works so well with the TST...lotsa timing. A buddy at my diesel guys shop runs a sledpuller 66 TST and Crazy Larry and he can run 9x9 no problem...and the smoke clears at about 60psi and it rips through 6 inch mitre stacks. He was points leader in the Ontario Canada Sledpulling this year.
So what level does your bud run on the CLDL while the TST is on 9/9? And is the TST the twins version??
Old 01-25-2006 | 08:07 PM
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Stroke, You will be close to 440 if you have a good air supply...Bhaf or other...and You can get the power through the stock tranny 450 with the decal polished. Without big timing and duration and a built tranny... 500 is a hard jump.

So 450hp. how much tq do you think i will make with CL?
Old 01-25-2006 | 08:46 PM
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Ot, Greg runs the crazy larry on crazy larry and the TST twins on 9 9 for final pulls. It sounds like a machine gun for a second or two and then the sound deepens and deepens and the smoke goes less black and then you'd think you just heard a train go by. It's impressive. ks
Stroke, That will cost you a $100....at the dyno.....getter done!!
Old 01-25-2006 | 08:50 PM
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Guys, Here's what Greg's truck looks like with turn backs on. ks
http://www.hotroddiesel.ca/Greg%20Kidd3.jpg
Old 01-25-2006 | 09:25 PM
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forgive the stupid question; I'm new at this. What (or who) the heck is "crazy larry"?????
Old 01-25-2006 | 09:35 PM
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Crazy Larry is what bully dog calls the 230 hp setting on their dl'er. Crazy Larry is optional you can get it w/o C.L. setting
Old 01-25-2006 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by nojodas67
forgive the stupid question; I'm new at this. What (or who) the heck is "crazy larry"?????
Actually "He" is a pretty good marketing name. It is what Bully Dog calls there high horsepower program in their Power Pup and Triple Dog downloaders. The "Crazy Larry" program changes "Extreme" programing from about 130hp to 230hp when upgraded to the "Crazy Larry" version.
Old 01-25-2006 | 09:40 PM
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Crazy Larry

Originally Posted by nojodas67
forgive the stupid question; I'm new at this. What (or who) the heck is "crazy larry"?????
No stupid questions. Crazy Larry is a upgraded performance level of the Bullydog downloader. I believe, depending on the version you have, it will add 100hp over and above the standard Bullydog downloader. It adds a lot more timing and fuel for sure,..not to sure if it adds more duration.

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Old 01-25-2006 | 09:45 PM
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ramwb4, just curious but are you still running the bully dog stack are just the tst and ez?
Old 01-25-2006 | 09:57 PM
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I run Crazy Larry, TST "twins" and Edge EZ... Mine pulled the 541rwhp on stock injectors w/HUGE wheels & tires, TST on 7/7, no drugs on a Dyno Dynamics machine (lowest readings out there). The dyno operator said that it would've been around 575 on stock tires. I'm going to re-dyno soon on a Dynojet... once w/nitrous, once without. You'll have a hard time making over 480's on a stock turbo though.
Old 01-25-2006 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by abc4yew
Guys, Here's what Greg's truck looks like with turn backs on. ks
http://www.hotroddiesel.ca/Greg%20Kidd3.jpg

you lost me, what is turned on?
Old 01-25-2006 | 10:29 PM
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I will have to run mine on some stock tires again and see if I can get them to stick to the Dyno... Should be impressive for Stock Turbo, Fuel, and injectors... But I definitely know what is on the way...
Old 01-25-2006 | 11:10 PM
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[B]My first CTD - Please Help [/B]

Ok I finally broke down and bought my first CTD. I purchased a used 2003 2500 SO Cummins Quad cab, long bed for pulling my car trailer around. I switched from a gas powered ram to the cummins. I had expected a lot better pulling power than my 2000 5.2L ram, but was a bit dissapointed after the first trip, although fuel economy is a little better; I've been reading alot about mods that can be done but the more I read, the more confused I get. This is where I say "HEEEEEELPP". "I don't know where to start".
I'm not looking to peel the treads off my tires here, I would just like to have some spare horses available that I can hook up when I need them; say when going up the rockies pulling a 5,000 lb. suburban on my 2,000 trailer.
A CONSICE AND HONEST ADVICE FOR A NEW CUMMINS OWNER WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. Again, I just want to do the minimal for the most HP/TQ gain that will be safe for the engine and won't cut too many years off it's long life.
And btw, the truck has just 30k so it's just broken in, and it's all stock.
Thanks to all in advance.
Old 01-26-2006 | 01:37 AM
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Whitsport,
How much boost are you seeing at full tilt?
Old 01-26-2006 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by chw
ramwb4, just curious but are you still running the bully dog stack are just the tst and ez?
No, I removed the BD Triple Dog programming, or at least put back to stock with the programmer. The BD downloader did add additional power when I stacked the Performance program with the TST and EZ, but I was just not comfortable with it. And even with the SPS66 holding the wastegate open at 55psi it still got hot(1700*) in OD lockup by the end of the 1/4. Seen too many posts of downloader issues when trying to change or return to stock. Without a way to check drive pressure I really never was able to find the best stack settings. With Performance program, TST w/twins on 7/6 and EZ on 3 ran 13.2s and 13.3s consistently. Those settings dyno'd 522/930. Other settings I tried would raise Torque number, but not hp number. That is not bad with 315s, but others seem to get a little more hp out of basically same stack.


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