Variable Geometry Turbos for Dodge Cummins
#46
Ok guys, (since I'm the only one the least bit skeptical of Banks here) when have you seen any serious hp upgrades for the Cummins from Banks??
To date the only product that I would even consider from Banks is the intercooler.
When Banks decides to get serious about building a Cummins compatible product that produces 400hp on top of stock then I'll reconsider. They have done it with Chevy and Ferd!!
Until then it is all just an infomercial!!
Pony up Gale Banks engineers!!!!!
(Jeez, I hope they are a registered DTR advertizer as I'd really like to see Gale Banks do it!!) In fact I'll Beta test with my truck!!!
Rick
To date the only product that I would even consider from Banks is the intercooler.
When Banks decides to get serious about building a Cummins compatible product that produces 400hp on top of stock then I'll reconsider. They have done it with Chevy and Ferd!!
Until then it is all just an infomercial!!
Pony up Gale Banks engineers!!!!!
(Jeez, I hope they are a registered DTR advertizer as I'd really like to see Gale Banks do it!!) In fact I'll Beta test with my truck!!!
Rick
#47
I remember Bank's or maybe even Gale for matter being on TDR for a short time. I dont remember everything but apperantly He/they couldnt handle the heat. Banks actually threatened any TDR member who bad mouthed their company with a lawsuit or something along thoes lines. It was a total self destructive move on their part. There are lots of negitive threads about Banks on TDR.
Then again I could be confused
Then again I could be confused
#48
Peter, thanks for the heads up on the show.
I was dissapointed when I talked to my Banks rep and was told the turbo was not going to be available, I had seen it on a previous Trucks episode I believe and realy wanted it! Do you have any idea when it may be released, I've got to save enough for the turbo, converter, and the technicooler in time!
I was dissapointed when I talked to my Banks rep and was told the turbo was not going to be available, I had seen it on a previous Trucks episode I believe and realy wanted it! Do you have any idea when it may be released, I've got to save enough for the turbo, converter, and the technicooler in time!
#49
WOW
Hey bbhzx12 are you and I reading the same thread here? There hasnt been one good thing said about this turbo. Even Banks who I bet is chompin at the bit to unload this turbo to un informed CTD owners still havent figured a way out to make it work right. I'd personally give up your quest for the Banks VG turbo. Try reading through all 3 pages on this thread and you might think differently.
Good luck
Hey bbhzx12 are you and I reading the same thread here? There hasnt been one good thing said about this turbo. Even Banks who I bet is chompin at the bit to unload this turbo to un informed CTD owners still havent figured a way out to make it work right. I'd personally give up your quest for the Banks VG turbo. Try reading through all 3 pages on this thread and you might think differently.
Good luck
#50
I've read Banks Bashing on every performance thread in this forum, just so happens I'm extremely happy with everything else I've gotten from them. Their customer service has been excellent to me and to my friends which is alot more than I can say for some other more "popular" companies on here. I wanted an Aroura set up in my truck untill my friend dropped some serious $$ on a Trans. from them and had it go bad in 2 months, the stocker lasted longer. Then they send him a new one which takes a minute to get into drive once you shift it, same with reverse, then they won't return his phone calls to find a solution! Long story short I like my Banks stuff, I'll give them more of my business in the future because I've never had an issue with their products and their support for upgrades has been spectacular.
However it seems this was a very old post, so I'm probably going to be dissapointed I thought they were finally releasing it and it seems it was just dug out from under the carpet here from over a year ago.
However it seems this was a very old post, so I'm probably going to be dissapointed I thought they were finally releasing it and it seems it was just dug out from under the carpet here from over a year ago.
#51
Yes I'm not a Banks fan. I have just never seen the results from Banks that justify the dollars spent.
I'm not bashing on the contrary I'm intrigued and I'm hopeful that the Gale Banks Corp will eventually come through with real results that justify their exorbidant costs!!
Rick
I'm not bashing on the contrary I'm intrigued and I'm hopeful that the Gale Banks Corp will eventually come through with real results that justify their exorbidant costs!!
Rick
#52
bbhzx12,
Although the VGT has been very reliable in testing, we have had delays bringing it to market simply because there are so many other products that we have in the works that are more mainstream that take precedence. The biggest holdup is the development of the electronic controls. I hope that the information that was provided in the show was at least educational for you even if the product is not yet available.
BigDan and runamuk,
You guys both seem to be hung up on the price of Banks products. This certainly does not apply to the turbo that has been discussed in this thread since no price exists for it at this point, so I am assuming that your concern is over other products that are available. Can you give me an example of a Banks product that you feel is “not worth the money” based on its price in comparison to competitive products with similar features?
Peter Treydte
Banks Power
Although the VGT has been very reliable in testing, we have had delays bringing it to market simply because there are so many other products that we have in the works that are more mainstream that take precedence. The biggest holdup is the development of the electronic controls. I hope that the information that was provided in the show was at least educational for you even if the product is not yet available.
BigDan and runamuk,
You guys both seem to be hung up on the price of Banks products. This certainly does not apply to the turbo that has been discussed in this thread since no price exists for it at this point, so I am assuming that your concern is over other products that are available. Can you give me an example of a Banks product that you feel is “not worth the money” based on its price in comparison to competitive products with similar features?
Peter Treydte
Banks Power
#53
Hi Peter. I will gladly tell you why I'm not happy with Banks. Im actually in the process of taking the banks logo off of my intake horn just so the average diesel owner who looks under my hood doesn't ask if I have the 6 gun on my truck.
My experience... I bought the technicooler from one of your "small dealers" who had it dropped shipped from your warehouse. When I recieved it the top left mounting tab was broke off but still in the box. I called the company I bought if from and he contaced Banks. Banks told him nothing. So I called banks to see what if they could file a claim with UPS. I was told that it wasn't there problem and to take it somewhere to get it welded back on if that is possible...
Pathetic customer service... If this would have happened to any of the other products that are on my truck I am positive they would've bent over backwards to help me. The intercooler is still on the truck with one bolt holding the top on....
Thanks to banks for the great customer service. You are truely one of a kind.
My experience... I bought the technicooler from one of your "small dealers" who had it dropped shipped from your warehouse. When I recieved it the top left mounting tab was broke off but still in the box. I called the company I bought if from and he contaced Banks. Banks told him nothing. So I called banks to see what if they could file a claim with UPS. I was told that it wasn't there problem and to take it somewhere to get it welded back on if that is possible...
Pathetic customer service... If this would have happened to any of the other products that are on my truck I am positive they would've bent over backwards to help me. The intercooler is still on the truck with one bolt holding the top on....
Thanks to banks for the great customer service. You are truely one of a kind.
#54
bbhzx12,
Although the VGT has been very reliable in testing, we have had delays bringing it to market simply because there are so many other products that we have in the works that are more mainstream that take precedence. The biggest holdup is the development of the electronic controls. I hope that the information that was provided in the show was at least educational for you even if the product is not yet available.
BigDan and runamuk,
You guys both seem to be hung up on the price of Banks products. This certainly does not apply to the turbo that has been discussed in this thread since no price exists for it at this point, so I am assuming that your concern is over other products that are available. Can you give me an example of a Banks product that you feel is “not worth the money” based on its price in comparison to competitive products with similar features?
Peter Treydte
Banks Power
Although the VGT has been very reliable in testing, we have had delays bringing it to market simply because there are so many other products that we have in the works that are more mainstream that take precedence. The biggest holdup is the development of the electronic controls. I hope that the information that was provided in the show was at least educational for you even if the product is not yet available.
BigDan and runamuk,
You guys both seem to be hung up on the price of Banks products. This certainly does not apply to the turbo that has been discussed in this thread since no price exists for it at this point, so I am assuming that your concern is over other products that are available. Can you give me an example of a Banks product that you feel is “not worth the money” based on its price in comparison to competitive products with similar features?
Peter Treydte
Banks Power
#55
Luken,
Based on your description, it sounds to me like this is a situation that was caused by UPS, not by a defective Banks product. Under normal circumstances, the proper procedure for resolving a situation like this would be for the purchasing party (in this case the “small dealer” that you mentioned) to order a replacement component from Banks and Banks would send a call tag to have the damaged part picked up. All packages that are shipped from Banks warehouse via UPS are insured, so the situation is certainly one that can be resolved.
HOWEVER, there is a unique problem that currently exists that may have caused a delay with your situation. Our supply of Dodge intercoolers is currently backlogged. It is possible that whoever you spoke with was indicating that this was the problem with getting a new intercooler to you right away. If you would like to PM me with some details about you and your dealer, perhaps I can help get the issue resolved.
Peter Treydte
Banks Power
Based on your description, it sounds to me like this is a situation that was caused by UPS, not by a defective Banks product. Under normal circumstances, the proper procedure for resolving a situation like this would be for the purchasing party (in this case the “small dealer” that you mentioned) to order a replacement component from Banks and Banks would send a call tag to have the damaged part picked up. All packages that are shipped from Banks warehouse via UPS are insured, so the situation is certainly one that can be resolved.
HOWEVER, there is a unique problem that currently exists that may have caused a delay with your situation. Our supply of Dodge intercoolers is currently backlogged. It is possible that whoever you spoke with was indicating that this was the problem with getting a new intercooler to you right away. If you would like to PM me with some details about you and your dealer, perhaps I can help get the issue resolved.
Peter Treydte
Banks Power
#56
I have the moster exhaust and love it. I shopped around and looked at all of the name brands at the time. Banks was a bit higher until you considered the lifetime warranty. Banks had the life time warranty. To save a few dollars I could of bought some else's product with a one year, three year or a five year. Prices were in the ball park for the other brands with a lifetime warranty.
Yea Banks does not make the big horse power some of the others but they seem to deliver the reasonable "safe", with some of the best safeguards. Just my two cents.
Yea Banks does not make the big horse power some of the others but they seem to deliver the reasonable "safe", with some of the best safeguards. Just my two cents.
#57
BigDan and runamuk,
You guys both seem to be hung up on the price of Banks products. This certainly does not apply to the turbo that has been discussed in this thread since no price exists for it at this point, so I am assuming that your concern is over other products that are available. Can you give me an example of a Banks product that you feel is “not worth the money” based on its price in comparison to competitive products with similar features?
Peter Treydte
Banks Power
Wow I cant wait.
What part in my prior post does it seem like "I'm hung up on Bank's prices" ?
I'm also lost when you also accused me of saying "banks isnt worth the money"?
I didnt say a thing that your accusing me of saying in this post. I think its pretty %$&^ity that you just throw me into a group like that!
I now totally understand why most people nothing good to say about your company.
Now down to busniess..... You asked us to answer this question "Can you give me an example of a Banks product that you feel is “not worth the money” based on its price in comparison to competitive products with similar features?"
Now instead of just spouting off on how I really feel about your products and product pricing, I'm thinking of just starting a new thread outlining this very question. In fact I think you should do it exactly how you worded it. I think you will get alot better and more responces that way with a fresh new thread instead of poking around in these little threads on the 4th page.
So what do you think I should do.
#59
Well, this is going to go downhill fast!
Either way Peter, Banks has my business, I've been thrilled with your products and look forward to trying the VGT turbo whenever it's released! Thanks again for keeping us informed of your new products, there are definately some members here who appreciate your info. and products.
Either way Peter, Banks has my business, I've been thrilled with your products and look forward to trying the VGT turbo whenever it's released! Thanks again for keeping us informed of your new products, there are definately some members here who appreciate your info. and products.
#60
Peter T,
Prime example:
Q1 What is the price of a High Ram intake??
A1 Who cares as it is dyno proven not to improve your hp anyway.
My major point is Gale Banks has shunned the Cummins as evidenced by the mere fact that they do not produce a product that will give a Cummins owner the sheer brute Hp that Gale Banks has given to the Bow tie and Blue oval guys!!---Granted I've only seen Banks infomercials as Gale and his Crew would never show up to a dyno day with my guys!! Wanna get spanked?
We have several members in my chapter that put down WELL over 600rwhp in a daily driven vehicle. There are dozens of guys who can do this on this website alone! Not to mention TDR.
Which Banks products can accomplish that for the Cummins Peter???
In my chapter our money goes into HP production. If your product cannot provide that then you are catering to the wrong guys.
Don't get me wrong I appreciate all that Gale Banks has done for the diesel industry as a whole but where is my piece of cheese?
Finally, what part of $4000.00 for 100 rwhp does not equate to you??
Rick
P.S. Please do not think that anything that I have said is Bashing as I think the world of Gale Banks Inc I just wonder where they think that V-8 engines are even comparable to my Cummins!
Rick
Prime example:
Q1 What is the price of a High Ram intake??
A1 Who cares as it is dyno proven not to improve your hp anyway.
My major point is Gale Banks has shunned the Cummins as evidenced by the mere fact that they do not produce a product that will give a Cummins owner the sheer brute Hp that Gale Banks has given to the Bow tie and Blue oval guys!!---Granted I've only seen Banks infomercials as Gale and his Crew would never show up to a dyno day with my guys!! Wanna get spanked?
We have several members in my chapter that put down WELL over 600rwhp in a daily driven vehicle. There are dozens of guys who can do this on this website alone! Not to mention TDR.
Which Banks products can accomplish that for the Cummins Peter???
In my chapter our money goes into HP production. If your product cannot provide that then you are catering to the wrong guys.
Don't get me wrong I appreciate all that Gale Banks has done for the diesel industry as a whole but where is my piece of cheese?
Finally, what part of $4000.00 for 100 rwhp does not equate to you??
Rick
P.S. Please do not think that anything that I have said is Bashing as I think the world of Gale Banks Inc I just wonder where they think that V-8 engines are even comparable to my Cummins!
Rick