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Van Aaken C3.2 pressure box or timing box?

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Old 04-16-2010 | 09:13 PM
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Question Van Aaken C3.2 pressure box or timing box?

I was reading on a couple of old advertisements as to what kind of product the VA C3.2 was and I have gathered that it is a pressure box as it increases the fuel pulse length and ammount. I have also read it improves the fuel timing curve not sure exactly what to believe right now. I have one on my truck and it works great my truck smokes a little more on the max setting and fuel pressure dips at WOT so if anyone has some useful info on the subject I would be greatful. On the subject as well what are some other boxes/programmers I can stack with a VA C3.2?
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The C3.2 is a DURATION box. The C3.1 is a pressure box.
You can stack your C3.2 with just about anything. Quadzilla, MP8, Edge EZ, Diablosport Predator, Smarty......
A very popular stack a couple years ago was with a Quadzilla Race box. You really had to watch those EGTs though if you have a stock turbo.
I had mine stacked with a Predator and the truck ran awesome. I pulled the Predator off so I would not break my stock trans...
The C3.2 also boost fools.

When I ran mine with the Predator I was not running any kind of special programs. MikeyB runs one with his Smarty but runs a special program. Maybe he will chime in....
Van Aaken made some great stuff but never got the notoriety as some other boxes because they were pretty expensive so most guys didn't bother with them....
Old 04-17-2010 | 07:45 AM
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they were on the verge of really getting somewhere too, watched them dyno tune a few trucks updating tunes via laptop and wow could they get some power. then they got bought up, and the new owner sat on it, such a shame. too bad the guys that were involved didn't go to work for Marco to add to the development.
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Can't really add much more to what Dodgezilla has already mentioned.

I recommend stacking with another box/programmer that also does timing, this will help with the EGTs. With my stock turbo and a boost elbow set to 32psi I will see 1250 degrees WOT with the VA on 3 (Smarty programmed to level 1). Around 150hp is about it for me. Draining the rail with the stock CP3.

Also watch out for the stock clutch, the VA can slip it.

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Old 04-17-2010 | 10:19 AM
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Duration box does that mean that it increases the length of the injection pulse? I would assume so.
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That is correct.

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Old 04-18-2010 | 10:57 AM
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does ne one know who bought up Van Aaken? what exactly happened to them all I can find is they went out of business
Old 04-18-2010 | 10:59 AM
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Richard at Glacier Diesel Power bought all the remaining VA stuff.

You can stack a pressure and timing box with the VA C3.2. Just remember the limitations with the stock turbo, CP3/injectors and clutch.

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he may have bought the stuff, but I think bowser is asking who bought the company....
Old 04-21-2010 | 11:18 PM
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that helped alot I'm kinda getting somewhere, now all I have to do is find a pressure/timing box.
Old 04-22-2010 | 07:20 AM
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quad boxes add just that, pressure and timing !
Old 04-22-2010 | 07:40 AM
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And stacks very nicely with a C3.2. You just need to watch those EGTs. I ran that stack on my 03 truck for a while and while top end power was not spectacular, the bottom end power was awesome. That truck would chirp second gear anytime I got on it.....
Old 04-24-2010 | 09:59 PM
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it chirps second and third pretty well right now, but which quad boxes you talking bout?
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I was running one of the original Quad Race Boxes...
Old 04-30-2010 | 08:59 PM
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okay cool thanks



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