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Old 09-17-2013 | 08:57 AM
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Question Tuner / Programmer

In the not too distant future, I want to put on a programmer / tuner. I know that most on here are for the Smarty, but I'm not sure. Most folks I know have a Bully Dog or Edge. Some on Dodge, and Duramax. My rig is stock, I will be doing a muffler delete, but that will probably be about it. Is on-the-fly tuning a big deal? Can Smarty do that? I will be adding gauges, but if I went with Edge or Bully Dog, I could use their monitor. I am NOT looking to make huge power #'s....just make my truck a little better. A 5th wheel camper is in the near future, and I pull moderate loads with a gooseneck now. One more thing, will Smarty adjust for tire size?
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Old 09-17-2013 | 11:19 AM
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EFI live is the new trick, don't believe it is "change on the fly" I just read that Edge filed for protection from bankruptcy, the government is putting the screw`s to some of these companies.
Old 09-17-2013 | 11:46 AM
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My build date is 7-2004. I didn't think I can run efilive.
Old 09-17-2013 | 07:00 PM
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My build date is 7-2004. I didn't think I can run efilive.
Correct. Smarty or the other tuners/boxes are your best bet. My Smarty's been on there for seven yrs now without a hitch.
Old 09-18-2013 | 11:16 AM
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smarty does adjust for tire size.

If you want the electronic all in one screen with guages, get the bully dog not the edge. B-dogs tunes are better.

If you don't really want all that much power, just run better, the smarty jr is your best bet. Use the money saved for good gauges.

Tuning on the fly sounds great, but is really not all that. Your right foot is the best tuner of all.
Old 09-20-2013 | 01:00 AM
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I read about the Smarty and using it to adjust timing and other things. That sounds cool, but does it have preset stuff as well? Or am I going to have to adjust lots of parameters?
Old 09-21-2013 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Fiftygrit
EFI live is the new trick, don't believe it is "change on the fly" I just read that Edge filed for protection from bankruptcy, the government is putting the screw`s to some of these companies.
EFI live is now on the fly. 5 stages and all 5 stages of your choice. Efi partners up with a 5 position switch and now I think edge from what I seen on their website. But EFI live has tunes only for 06 and up or its 07 and up.
Old 09-22-2013 | 09:16 AM
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Yep, no EFI support for the '03-05 models due to the SCI bus.
Old 09-22-2013 | 03:25 PM
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I guess I'll keep researching and reading.....don't know what to do yet. I don't want anything over complicated.
Old 09-22-2013 | 10:33 PM
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I guess I'll keep researching and reading.....don't know what to do yet. I don't want anything over complicated.
Edge is easy and good power but its hard on your injectors.

I don't know much about bullydog on cummins. I have only ran them on a DIRTYMAX.

Always look into a 5 or 6 postion chip. where you can have 5-6 stages of power.

Banks has the 6 gun but they are a pain to wire in. Takes a lot of work. But banks doesn't smoke and its not a huge increase of power. ITs ok but doesn't impress me.

I think a edge could be ok if you don't abuse it. I know a lot of trucks running edge stock with no problems. But these are older guys that respect their truck. I know a lot of kids that run them and tear trannys and injectors up.
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