Ok boys, this mechanical guy needs some help. I'm getting ready to put these on my truck along with the II SPS 66, I've talked to a couple of different people about what settings to go with and if i should even use all three together and i've gotten totally different answers, if any of you have some ideas, i would love to hear them. I'm looking at what would be good for everyday driving, plus what the max settings should be, i'm just a little behind on all this common rail stuff i guess, any help would be appreciated.

 

I am wondering the same thing. I have heard you can run the tst/Crazy Larry/Pressure box of choice. Then I have heard that you have to run the BDDL on the tow setting. Some say NO WAY? Be the guinea pig for me and find out

 

Well, i guess i will as soon as everything shows up. Both of the people i ask i think know a good deal about the subject, but they were opposite answers. Just hoping for some more ideas.

 

Doesn't the BDDL add pressure on the performance and extreme settings?(because the Ramifier is a pressure box) or is it just on the extreme setting? I hope somebody can answer that one because I'd like to stack one with my Juice

 

BDDL adds _SOME_ pressure, not much. I used to run the BDDL on extreme with the mp8. I would leave the MP8 off all the time, then turn it on when you want to (doesn't take any time to do).

 

I've stacked the BDDL (on extreme) with an EZ and a Quad race (not at the same time!) and each responds similarly. The quad/bddl stack is great for power and driveability. I usually run with the quad off or on 60hp but when I routinely drive with it set to 140hp and the bddl never leaves extreme.

Andy

 

I've run the TST, Ramifier, and BDDL all at the same time.

TST 7x7 + Ramifier 40% = 502hp or so
TST 7x7 + Ramifier 40% + BDDL on Tow = 430hp or so
TST 7x7 + BDDL on Tow = 555hp

I prefer to run the TST and Ramifier leaving the BDDL out, mainly because of smoke. The TST Twins/BDDL stack smokes waaaaaay too much for California roads. I do, however, like the way the truck responds with the BDDL installed. I only run the tow setting and use the Ramifier for pressure.

The BDDL on tow and the Ramifier on 100% will black out a couple of lanes, plus it runs great.

The BDDL and TST run great together, as does the Ramifier and TST.

But I'll tell you this- A triple stack is too much with a stock CP3. You drain the rail early and make low power. It's also hard to find the perfect combo of settings without several hours on the dyno.

I traded away my BDDL and am waiting for a Smarty. I think the Smarty/TST/Ramifier stack will allow the ultimate in fine-tuning for horsepower. I'll be logging a day on the dyno when the Smarty arrives!

 

JCleary,

I am still convenced you are running to high of settings on the TST. What program are you running?

Have you dynoed 5-4 or 6-4 TST Twins and 100% on MP-8 stack program plugged into the map first? I bet you will get closer to 600hp and you will not miss the BDDL anymore.

 

So we've decided that i don't really need the BDDL?!?

 

At the last dyno I had the standard TST program with the standard Ramifier program. My best run was with the BDDL/TST, but I'm sure I could have done closer to 600 given a few more runs w/o the downloader. The downloader makes too much smoke, IMO.

Now I'm running the TST Early Twins with the MP-8 and the TST program. I have the TST plugged into the MAP, as the MP-8 makes the fueling way to agressive for my manual trans. truck. It's not very driveable this way at all. I think it would be the cat's meow with the regular TST Twins program. When I have time I'll send it in for a re-flash.

I'm having major EGT issues with the TST twins at anything over 6-4 on the street. Just today I was watching the EGT spin up faster than the tach in 4th gear.

To me it seems like I can't put the power down on the street, just on the dyno. I don't know what my problem is. I have an AFE stage II, Banks Technicooler, SPS66, ATS manifold, a FASS that is never under 16psi WOT, 4" turbo-back. My TST defuels 1/2 way through 5th gear.

Frustrating sometimes, knowing your truck makes the power but you can't use it for long.

I'm going to get the newer twins flash and give it a shot. If that doesn't work, the SPS66 is going and I'm moving on to twins.


W.F.O- No, you don't need the downloader. Wait for the Smarty to come out if you must have one.

 

The downloaders sure are nice on the street though. The bullydog made my truck ALOT more enjoyable to drive.

In fact I just might be going all downloader.....

 

True...

You don't get any run-on when you have a downloader cranked up, plus the spooling is nice.

 

I don't think you need to go over 6-4...even 5-4 with the twins program. It is more than enough fuel to make as much HP as a 66 can pump air. Maybe you are still trying to high of TST settings. With my Aurora 5000...egts rise fairly quickey to 1300-1350 and really slow down at 1400 and hold at 1450-1500 when I really have it all cranked up and do a 1/4 mile. Twins will cool that down some...cam too. Can't wait for later this summer.

 

Details!

Andy

 

Ditto on the downloader. I love mine and won't be parting with it. That doesn't mean I won't maybe switch to a Smarty though. It stays on the Performance level, and on my rig, stacks better than anything else I have tried with the TST.

I did not like the TST twins program at all. I lost power with it any higher than 4/4. After much tweaking and tuning, it still made less overall power than the singles program, and made less power with much, much hotter EGTs than the singles program. Generally just doesn't run as good.