3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (5.9L Only) Talk about Dodge/Cummins aftermarket products for third generation trucks here. Can include high-performance mods, or general accessories. THIS IS FOR THE 5.9L ONLY!

Snow water meth question... asked with a good old fashioned madhat vid...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-09-2009 | 02:10 PM
  #16  
CamperAndy's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,283
Likes: 1
From: Coeur d'Alene ID
Originally Posted by madhat
Maybe it was air locked like stated before. I'll play with it again this evening...
Plumb in a pressure gage between the pump and the check valve (or solenoid if you have one) and you can tell when you are pumping. If it is air locked you will only make maybe 5 or 10 psi, if it is working you should make upward to 150 to 200 psi.

These pumps use double check valves to operate and a peice of debris as small as a hair will prevent it from pumping air but will not be too affected when moving water.
Old 10-09-2009 | 03:32 PM
  #17  
madhat's Avatar
Thread Starter
Administrator/Jarhead
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 14,965
Likes: 19
From: Jacksonville, NC
Well, I took her out a little while ago... Seems to be spraying fine. ???

Used about half a tank of water in a 15 minute ride, and I could tell it was spraying.
Old 10-09-2009 | 03:43 PM
  #18  
Harry Kelleher's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
When you call snow you might want to check into a 220psi pump upgrade.

It's not your issue, you should be draining the tank, but at 50psi plus boost the 150psi pump won't overcome it so it won't spray and it sounds like you can go there. They have been talking about a new pump that will but the old ones didn't.

you got the stage 3?

It might be the controller acting up. if so you could wire in a switch and test it manually, just don't bring it on to early.

Of course the best thing is to talk to them.
Old 10-09-2009 | 06:35 PM
  #19  
madhat's Avatar
Thread Starter
Administrator/Jarhead
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 14,965
Likes: 19
From: Jacksonville, NC
Yep, stage three.

All I need is 12v to get the water. I could wire up a manual switch no prob, but that would be crap, considering that I paid, what, 600 bucks for it?

I do want a bigger pump. I'll find out about that, but I'm not planning on spending any money anytime soon.
Old 10-09-2009 | 07:18 PM
  #20  
CamperAndy's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,283
Likes: 1
From: Coeur d'Alene ID
Originally Posted by Harry Kelleher
When you call snow you might want to check into a 220psi pump upgrade.

It's not your issue, you should be draining the tank, but at 50psi plus boost the 150psi pump won't overcome it so it won't spray and it sounds like you can go there. They have been talking about a new pump that will but the old ones didn't.
Actually the bold statement is wrong. As long as you have 1 psi more pressure from the water pump then you have for boost you will flow. The issue is you will have poor atomization when you have low differential. Even at 50 psi boost a 150 psi pump will do fine with 1 nozzle. Start going with multiple nozzles and your flow will be high enough that the pump may not make the full 150 psi and then your atomization starts get poor.
Old 10-09-2009 | 09:07 PM
  #21  
madhat's Avatar
Thread Starter
Administrator/Jarhead
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 14,965
Likes: 19
From: Jacksonville, NC
I have 2 nozzles.

Fellas, let's not turn this into a peeing contest... I do appreciate your comments.
Old 10-09-2009 | 09:21 PM
  #22  
CamperAndy's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,283
Likes: 1
From: Coeur d'Alene ID
Originally Posted by madhat

let's not turn this into a peeing contest...
I was in a peeing contest once, It all depends on the pressure of the stream and volume of budweiser intake on if you can write your name in the snow and actually read it when you are done.That was one winter many years ago.
Old 10-10-2009 | 10:46 AM
  #23  
PSYCHOFAB's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
From: SO*CAL
Nice quote, you can learn a lot from a psycho.
Old 10-10-2009 | 02:21 PM
  #24  
madhat's Avatar
Thread Starter
Administrator/Jarhead
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 14,965
Likes: 19
From: Jacksonville, NC
Originally Posted by CamperAndy
I was in a peeing contest once, It all depends on the pressure of the stream and volume of budweiser intake on if you can write your name in the snow and actually read it when you are done.That was one winter many years ago.
True...

Originally Posted by PSYCHOFAB
Nice quote, you can learn a lot from a psycho.
It was a good quote...
Old 10-10-2009 | 04:55 PM
  #25  
soulezoo's Avatar
DTR 1st Sergeant
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,530
Likes: 6
From: Applegate, CA
The snow stage 3 uses 3 nozzles, but you are only using 2, Mad?
Old 10-10-2009 | 04:59 PM
  #26  
madhat's Avatar
Thread Starter
Administrator/Jarhead
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 14,965
Likes: 19
From: Jacksonville, NC
I only got 2 buddy. I put this on a while back... it's been about 2 years. Maybe an older model?
Old 10-10-2009 | 06:45 PM
  #27  
soulezoo's Avatar
DTR 1st Sergeant
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,530
Likes: 6
From: Applegate, CA
Ok, mine is about 1 1/2 years old and has 3 nozzles.
Now I'm not learned enough to give you a formula on how it should work but I can say this: up to about the power it takes to give me 35-40 lbs of boost, the system works great and I can see considerable egt reduction. I can play with the settings or just turn it on and off to watch the effects. Now above that level I can see the effect and performance really drop off and at higher boost/hp levels it is pretty much ineffectual. Now I believe that Schied has some sort of table, (THE Mr. John P can talk to this), that references how much water at what pressure is required to achieve x amount of egt cooling. I know I am not there yet!
Old 10-10-2009 | 07:52 PM
  #28  
madhat's Avatar
Thread Starter
Administrator/Jarhead
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 14,965
Likes: 19
From: Jacksonville, NC
Yeah, I know that there are bigger pumps out there, I just don't want to drop the coin on them.

I figure as long as I am not at WOT, it works....
Old 10-10-2009 | 08:12 PM
  #29  
CamperAndy's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,283
Likes: 1
From: Coeur d'Alene ID
Here is one of many sites that can help you calculate the flow rates with various pump pressures and boost pressures.

Orifice Flow Calcs
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Tate
ABDTR #5
22
11-27-2012 11:17 PM
irocpractice
Other
11
05-18-2011 08:51 PM
Hoss
Other
66
12-10-2005 02:30 AM
100 Proof
3rd Gen Engine and Drivetrain -> 2003-2007
23
07-02-2004 10:06 AM



Quick Reply: Snow water meth question... asked with a good old fashioned madhat vid...



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:35 PM.