smarty vs. bullydog (and hopefully) vs ppe...real info FINALLY!!!
01-19-2009, 08:17 AM
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Question for you all?
How come at Dog Days of Summer 2008 the top ten Dodge trucks all ran a Smarty?
ouch...it was painfull...lol.
BDDL made 60 hp on my truck back in the day...
Sure...once the TST was involved it worked...but by itself...nothing.
Tuning is tuning...and there are lots of ways to get there.
There is ONE for sure way.
How come at Dog Days of Summer 2008 the top ten Dodge trucks all ran a Smarty?
ouch...it was painfull...lol.
BDDL made 60 hp on my truck back in the day...
Sure...once the TST was involved it worked...but by itself...nothing.
Tuning is tuning...and there are lots of ways to get there.
There is ONE for sure way.
01-19-2009, 08:37 AM
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Because a RESPONSIBLE vendor will not give you an upgrade he KNOWS will trash your engine because you do not have the necessary parts to support it.
The programs we are talking about here are so radical that without things like "upgraded valve springs", the pistons will slap the valves. If you are a vendor and you want to stay in business, you do not hand that out to people that you know can't use it.
The programs we are talking about here are so radical that without things like "upgraded valve springs", the pistons will slap the valves. If you are a vendor and you want to stay in business, you do not hand that out to people that you know can't use it.
01-19-2009, 09:19 AM
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well the way I see it is its BOB's choice who he gives it to and i have no issue with that he owns it developes it and reserves that right in IMO.
The excuse given though just does not hold water to me. thats all
The excuse given though just does not hold water to me. thats all
01-19-2009, 11:25 AM
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It wouldn't if you wish to believe there is some "conspiracy" at work here. They do control it and for the reasons I mentioned as well as others I don't doubt.
They have a reputation to uphold and obviously they choose to protect that reputation as any legitimate business would. Bully Dog showed the same restraint when they pulled the crazy Larry stuff from the market. It just plain makes sense for a Manufacturer to be careful in todays "sue happy" enviroment.
They have a reputation to uphold and obviously they choose to protect that reputation as any legitimate business would. Bully Dog showed the same restraint when they pulled the crazy Larry stuff from the market. It just plain makes sense for a Manufacturer to be careful in todays "sue happy" enviroment.
01-19-2009, 12:21 PM
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01-19-2009, 06:27 PM
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Bad analogy, but.. If I sold you a truck for $20k with a Common rail Cummins.... that is what you got. If 7 months later I said that I created a better diesel engine that had more power, longevity, mileage..... Do you think I should just give it to you? No, its mine. If I wanted to just give it away to whoever I wanted, I will... because its MINE. Think about it!!!! You paid for what you got, which is awesome. 
01-19-2009, 07:54 PM
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Lary, save your breath. For some reason, some people just don't get it. It just amazes me. If Marco came up with a new tune 2 months from now and didn't say anything to anyone, no one would know and know one could complain. If Marco mentions he has a new tune in 2 months and wont release it, some of these guys get pi**** off because they can't get it. Like that was part of the deal or something. Makes no sence. IT IS NOT YOUR TUNE dummy. You did not create it. You do not own it! You paid $700 dollars for it the way it was and at the time, you didn't know there would be more. You SHOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR ANY TUNE YOU ADD OR ANY FUTURE UPGRADES. You didn't put the HARD work into creating it. Bad analogy, but.. If I sold you a truck for $20k with a Common rail Cummins.... that is what you got. If 7 months later I said that I created a better diesel engine that had more power, longevity, mileage..... Do you think I should just give it to you? No, its mine. If I wanted to just give it away to whoever I wanted, I will... because its MINE. Think about it!!!! You paid for what you got, which is awesome.
Bad analogy, but.. If I sold you a truck for $20k with a Common rail Cummins.... that is what you got. If 7 months later I said that I created a better diesel engine that had more power, longevity, mileage..... Do you think I should just give it to you? No, its mine. If I wanted to just give it away to whoever I wanted, I will... because its MINE. Think about it!!!! You paid for what you got, which is awesome. .