jgiachino

http://www.madselectronics.com/SmartyREVO.html

Just found it, sorry if someone already posted....

Little confused on the timing levels...but the rest makes sense...

MikeyB

Lots of info over here.....
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...d.php?t=196159

From my understanding #1 is stock timing, #2 is a little more timing (default as in the current programs), #3 is retarded timing for aftermarket injectors and #4 is more timing than #2.

MikeyB

jrussell

They said #4 is “Less timing advance than Aftermarket injectors”. That would make it less timing than #2 and #3, but more timing than #1.

MikeyB

Marco said that was a mistake. The program should have more timing on #4.

1 = Stock timing
2 = Original injectors timing
3 = Aftermarket injectors timing
4 = SHOULD be a higher timing than #2 instead it's the same as # 2

Now that I think about it... The #4 timing for the TNT's had to be finished but then you guys took me by storm...

OPS! Correction needed! Tomorrow...

Marco


MikeyB

bluechrome

Well I'm not sure but Ive ran #1 and the smoke is way down. Yet the power is unbeilievable

jgiachino

Got the TnT yesterday (non R version).....definately getting a lot more timing rattle on number 4, so guessing it's been increased....what i've seen:

Timing #2 - seems like normal smarty timing, but higher egt's than beta 4.4
Timing #4 - noticable rattle (more than original smarty's), but great egt's and very noticable power increase and egt reduction...but am concerned it may be a tad too much timing...

jgiachino

Ok, taking the above and the doc on the mads site:

Injection Timing

# 0 - Default ( depending on CaTCHER level )
# 1 - Stock
# 2 - Mild ( for stock injectors )
# 3 - Advanced ( for aftermarket Injectors )
# 4 - Moderate ( Less timing advance than level 3 )

My thoughts / questions

Injection Timing

# 0 - Default ( depending on CaTCHER level ): So this is what would have come if options were not enabled via the revo?
# 1 - Stock: This one's easy, stock Timing
# 2 - Mild ( for stock injectors ) - Is this more or less than #0/Default? e.g. would i use this if i wanted more timing than comes standard?
# 3 - Advanced ( for aftermarket Injectors )- Easy, aftermarket injectors
# 4 - Moderate ( Less timing advance than level 3 ) - Supposed to be more than #2, but isnt? - definately more than #2 on the version i have "S06V413BDR121S.Smt"....think it acually has too much...lots of rattle, but great response...

2007 5.9

When you say that #4 may have too much timing, how would this compare to either version 4.06 or 4.09. With both of these sw's I had quite a bit of rattle.

When you say it may have too much timing do you notice more smoke output? I noticed that with more timing rattle came more smoke, is this your situation?

jgiachino

For my truck, i think it has more rattle than either 4.06 or 4.09.....yes on the smoke output...#4 has a pretty constant stream / haze at light throttle....

I tried both #2 and #0 (default catcher)....both stopped the haze and the rattle....but i like the increased throttle response of #4 (and guessing mileage)....but i'm not knowledgable enough to know if it's too much or bad for my truck, so i just can't run #4

For now i'm trying to figure out which has more timming #0 or #2....as neither has rattle, so i'd like to use the one with the most timming....

jrussell

Mine is rattling like crazy on the "Aftermarket injectors" setting, which was #2 on the original instruction sheet I received. Is #2 actually the advanced timing for stock injectors then?

jgiachino

That's where i think the confusion is....the original instruction sheed (word doc) and what's posted on the home page...differ a little...

From the Word Doc:

Injection Timing : Four levels.
# 0 ; Stock.
# 1 ; “Stock injectors”. ( Default )
# 2 ; “Aftermarket Injectors”.
# 3 ; “Less timing advance than “Aftermarket injectors”.


From the website:

Injection Timing

# 0 - Default ( depending on CaTCHER level )
# 1 - Stock
# 2 - Mild ( for stock injectors )
# 3 - Advanced ( for aftermarket Injectors )
# 4 - Moderate ( Less timing advance than level 3 )


I'm guessing the wesite is accurate because there are 0-4 enabled on the software i have...e.g. 4 is a valid entry (where as 5+ are not)...if the word doc was correct, you wouldnt think 4+ would be valid....total speculation, but seems logical

Bob/Marco...any clarification?

jrussell

There's definitely no shortage of confusion on my end.

I hope Bob or Marco can straighten it our for us. One little thing I would suggest is don't call #3 "Advanced" if it's for aftermarket injectors. Aftermarket injectors should have slightly retarded timing, so calling it "Advanced" seems a little confusing.

This got me thinking (can you see hear the sizzling? ) that maybe I'm running "double" timing and that's why the rattle is so loud. If I choose level #9 and then timing #2, is that going to add timing on top of the original #9's added timing?

soulezoo

That is the question that needs an answer!

Billm2004

i saw that marco posted up earlier somewhere that you set your adjustments first, then the sw# of your choice. Correct me if im wrong bob/marco, but after you set your adjustments that is the settings its going to program the sw#'s for when you upload to your ecm, not stacking on top of??