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Old 02-09-2008 | 10:10 PM
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Smarty and EGT's?

I recently switched from mild tq to moderate tq managment. Before egt's never got above 1250. Now I can hit 1500+ by the time I get to 3rd gear. Whats the big difference?
Old 02-10-2008 | 02:06 AM
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Don't think it should cause that much of a diff....the less the tq mgmt, the more fuel earlier, but shouldnt cause a 250* temp diff....
Old 02-10-2008 | 03:42 AM
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More fuel = More heat!

Tourque management is another way of saying reduced fuel.

You need more air...Turbo time!
Old 02-10-2008 | 08:36 AM
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More fuel = More heat!

Tourque management is another way of saying reduced fuel.

You need more air...Turbo time!

Agree with the above....BUT: I'm running smarty 4.4 (think it's around moderate tq mgmt) and it fuels a lot harder than 4.11 and i don't have a turbo....and i have never see 1500*....more like 1200*-1300* max

Diff between our trucks = fuel pump, banks, DIY CP3....i can get my fp to 0, but my rp stays above 20+k at wot so i'm not running out of fuel....is your banks on or just using for guages?
Old 02-10-2008 | 10:31 AM
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I usually run my Banks 2 for a little timing and use the gauges. I can set smarty to stock and turn the 6-gun to 7 and get normal 1250 egts. Now I've updated from v4.0 to v4.11 I can't go back can I?
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for an 06 i believe you can go backward...but i'd try the 4.11 w banks off and see how your egts are...additional timing with smarty on odd numbers probably isnt a good thing
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I run the smarty on level 2 and use my banks for the timing. Even with the banks off the egts are high.
Old 02-10-2008 | 06:37 PM
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I run the smarty on level 2 and use my banks for the timing. Even with the banks off the egts are high.
I would try #5 and leave the banks off, on my truck I am seeing a 100* drop
Old 02-10-2008 | 06:48 PM
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I've tried that before with the old software and level 4 would hit 1450 pretty quick.
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I've tried that before with the old software and level 4 would hit 1450 pretty quick.
Are you running the even or odd numbers of smarty?....try level 5 and no banks.....then level 7 no banks.....

The even's will be hotter as they dont have timing...and the banks cant do the timing as well as smarty as it's static vs. smarty's dynamic...and the banks stuff is very conservative...

When i spoke of my egt's that was odd levels only...i never, ever use the even....and i cant think the banks on level 2 will add anything the smarty doest already have on the odd levels
Old 02-10-2008 | 07:51 PM
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I'll give it a try. I usually run the even numbers so I can adjust on the fly with the banks. Makes a pretty big difference and I don't have to stop for 5 mins to download.
Old 02-10-2008 | 09:18 PM
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I'll give it a try. I usually run the even numbers so I can adjust on the fly with the banks. Makes a pretty big difference and I don't have to stop for 5 mins to download.
I'll buy that, as i suppose adjustability would be nice...i leave mine on level 7 beta 4.4 all the time....i know many use a pressure only box for adjustability...like the mp8 or quad box....

At least try it as per above post, as i'm positive you wont be hitting 1500*'s...let us know!
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FastTaco,

I did not read your post with enough care.
jgiachino is right on the money.
Easy on the timing...Some of the ugliest engine damage I have seen came from a mismatched or improperly tuned stack.

Much of the entry level performance programmers and P/T boxes that work well as a fuel economy add ons or stand alone power adder's were never intended or designed to function with other high performance parts.

What once was a fairly tame programmer/box can turn into a monster when stacked or combined with the wrong hardware or software!
Combined with hardware upgrades such as injectors, nitrous, or even water/meth and undesirable things can and frequently do happen!

If you want more power it might be easier /safer to update your Smarty and add a pressure box.
Many of the brightest diesel guys in the industry have scattered motors as a result of timing errors... So beware!
Old 02-12-2008 | 08:09 PM
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I'm not using the smarty for timing just the banks. You would think it has less. Still wondering if upping the tq would have that big a difference in egt's.
Old 02-12-2008 | 08:15 PM
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You think the extra fuel from adding the GDP kit could make this difference or maybe air getting into the fuel line from a leak?


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