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Old 11-30-2006, 11:01 AM
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lol
thats what I was thinking,, maybe even 275

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btw you going to olds on the 9th?
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Originally Posted by XLR8R
The further the mass is away from the axis of rotation, the harder it is to accelerate (more potential inertia to overcome). Of course, in your example, one disc weighs more, so it'd be harder to accelerate.

An interesting example: 20" alloy rims with low-profile rubber, say 45 series, and 16" alloy rims with 75 series tall sidewalls.... which one will take less energy to rotationally accelerate? The answer may surprise you.
The answer to your question: the 16" take less energy.
I didn't say the disk that weighs more takes more energy to accelerate. That's the one that takes less energy. Here's an even better example. Say we have the sames disks as I mentioned before. Make the one with the center cut out (already lighter) alluminum. It still takes more energy to angularly accelerate than the much heavier solid 20" steel disk.
Old 11-30-2006, 01:00 PM
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I'de say 750 or close to lmills yall have the same set up. So DonM, I ordered your helix 2 w/springs and hellfires and a PPE dual fueler kit. Do your think I will have 800 with the dual pumps??
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What dyno are you going to be on?
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Originally Posted by drolex
For example, say we have two disks made of steel 1 inch thick and 20 inches in diameter. One disk is solid steel. The other one has the center (maybe 16 inches diameter) cut out leaving 2 inches around the outside. The solid steel disk takes less energy to rotate!
Well, it sounds like you're saying that the solid steel disc, which weighs more, takes less energy to rotate than the other, lighter disc with the center cut out. This of course would defy several laws of physics...

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The answer to your question: the 16" take less energy.
I didn't say the disk that weighs more takes more energy to accelerate. That's the one that takes less energy. Here's an even better example. Say we have the sames disks as I mentioned before. Make the one with the center cut out (already lighter) alluminum. It still takes more energy to angularly accelerate than the much heavier solid 20" steel disk.
BTW - the answer to my query is not knowable without numbers to plug into the equations.
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When I was on the dyno I had 33's on 20's... I was told if I put the stock wheels/tires on, the gain would be very minimal.
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Originally Posted by BlueDually
I have no dyno exp, but what ive read, but Id put the stock tires back on to dyno, and leave the outside duals off, if its true that they may break lose on the dyno.
This is exactly what I was going to recommend.

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When I was on the dyno I had 33's on 20's... I was told if I put the stock wheels/tires on, the gain would be very minimal.
You're probably right, but D.'s wheels are much larger and much heavier than a 33. The difference on his rig will be much more significant.
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There is a Big Rig Cummins place next to Kenworth of Columbus that has a dyno. I will be on it.
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Originally Posted by ptgarcia
This is exactly what I was going to recommend.



You're probably right, but D.'s wheels are much larger and much heavier than a 33. The difference on his rig will be much more significant.
You really think that my SEMI wheels and tires (H rated) would be heavier than some E rated wheels and tires that are 4-8" smaller ??
NO WAY!!

I am selling my stockers so, if they are gone prior to the dyno day then it will have to be done with just two rear wheels!
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You should at least be hot on the heels of whomever has the highest dyno numbers on this site.
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You should at least be hot on the heels of whomever has the highest dyno numbers on this site.
I would seriously hope so!!!
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Originally Posted by D.Wiggs
I recently purchased a HD video camera so I will record it in 1080i and Dolby Digital!!!

when you get the shots, send me a disc and i will butcher together a video for you, i have some new soundtrack ideas for that truck. maybe something like the star wars theme.

take stills, videos, etc. as high resolution as you can. aim the camera at the computer monitor during one of the runs.

and i'd say somewhere above 289whp.
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Originally Posted by dodgezilla04
when you get the shots, send me a disc and i will butcher together a video for you, i have some new soundtrack ideas for that truck. maybe something like the star wars theme.

take stills, videos, etc. as high resolution as you can. aim the camera at the computer monitor during one of the runs.

and i'd say somewhere above 289whp.
No problem! And I think only over 289 on the H20/Meth
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since we cant agree on the hp level can we all agree that his truck
IS ONE BAAAAAAAAADDDDD TRUCK!!!
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Originally Posted by bigdattydiesel
since we cant agree on the hp level can we all agree that his truck
IS ONE BAAAAAAAAADDDDD TRUCK!!!
I second the motion lol!


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