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Which Programmer Do I Get?????????

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Old 01-22-2008, 03:52 AM
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Which Programmer Do I Get?????????

So before the X2 gets ordered what other programmer should I look at getting for the ol truck? I have big plans for the rig but as anyone that knows about an Army income knows it is not very high! So the big plans are gonna take a while. Thanks for ya'lls time
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Smarty or PPE
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Smarty!!!!!!!!!!!.....I love mine.
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X2 isn't a programmer(I'm not sure if you thought it was by your post), get the Smarty, you won't need to stack anything.
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SMARTY....Hands Down
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I think you you will have about a 2 page thread saying the same thing..SMARTY
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Smarty and x2 race stack very well together on my 07 ran a 13.304 the way it came from the factory and installed smarty 4.4 and x2 stacker. The only other thing out their we have seen better is the tst/smarty stack if your truck is a early 06 you may look into tst but for us late 06-07 guys x2 and smarty like each other alot. We have tried nearly every stack with every programer/box combo out their and this is what worked for us.
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Banks 6 Gun!



NOT! Smarty all the way.
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By early 06, you mean a build date before...???
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June of 06 is the cutoff I believe.
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I've had Bully Dog TripleDog and now the Smarty....loved 'em both, prefer the Smarty on my truck...
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PPE Hot had been real good to me.
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If you're looking for a programmer/gauges, I would stick with the Smarty. If you are looking for a box/chip with digital gauges I would go with a Juice/Attitude. Really depends on how big your "plans" are. The "Hot Juice" is a pretty strong level on the Juice/Attitude.
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smarty made 60hp more than the PPE last weekend on the dyno here in town.

guy has ATS twins (a3k & a5k), dual cp3, studs, sticks, cam, fully balanced internals, fluidamper, ATS stage 6 tranny, 5 star converter, edge ez, PPE, co-pilot. first couple of runs with everything turned up (PPE & edge) he laid down 698, pulled the PPE off and laid down over 760 with smarty on 9. I was not there (he called me last night) so i don't know what version smarty was on the truck but i am sure it was beta 4.4.
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