Outrun by a Ferd
03-05-2006, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by abc4yew
Guys, Thought I'd dredge this one up. Well the guy in the F350 blew his tranny within a couple of days of this and has trashed it again since it was fixed the first time. After this extended high speed and for him high temp run...buddy turned it off the second he got out...and he was a truck driver and company owner. Well I guess from what his brother in law said....he cursed me for being so hard on his truck. 
I guess I didn't get outrun by a Ford afterall. I think he's looking at an 06 Dmax.....can't wait for that one as with RAD I'll gladly roaster. 
ks
I guess I didn't get outrun by a Ford afterall. I think he's looking at an 06 Dmax.....can't wait for that one as with RAD I'll gladly roaster. ksnot really a fair comparison if he had a stock tranny. you have a heavily modified tranny.....................
03-05-2006, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by abc4yew
Man, he must of had 38" tires on a 2002 to get it over 120mph. My buddies 7.3 barely reved over 3000 in OD. ks
but that truck is no more-it got piled into a back of a loaded tanker truck on a gravel road doing about 65 mph when the truck was stopped- now the 5 speed 96 Pwrstoke keeps him going closer to the speed limit
03-05-2006, 03:58 PM
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JCro, Your right I have a little 250hp SO with a box at half levels and he has a 325 hp with and edge j/a maxed. He had a 4k+ redline and I had a 3k limited redline. I had a 100k+ miles on and he had a fresh 10k miles. He had 5speeds with a triple disc and electronic control...I had a 4 speed with triple disc and hydraulic control. He had an aftermarket intake....I had stock airbox and filter. He had a full 4" exhaust I had stock exhaust at the time. His tranny and engine were running hot. Mine wasn't. You use what ya brought and even with my tranny rebuild he had a lot more into the truck just the wrong truck. He did take me on every downhill!!! for a 1/4 of a mile. For two big fat duallies this is as fair as it gets. ks
03-05-2006, 05:07 PM
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My truck is on 325-/60-18 (33/13.00)
The following on GPS
Stock: 108
BD RAD: 118.3
BD RAD + BDCL (raises rpm's to 3500) : 128.7
The ford on to 285's must have been turning over 4,000 rpm's. BS!
The following on GPS
Stock: 108
BD RAD: 118.3
BD RAD + BDCL (raises rpm's to 3500) : 128.7
The ford on to 285's must have been turning over 4,000 rpm's. BS!
03-05-2006, 08:42 PM
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your truck is the same year as mine but i dont have a speed limiter or i havent found it yet because i know it will go to 110 easy then my speed limiter kicks in but the truck can still keep going
03-06-2006, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by abc4yew
JCro, Your right I have a little 250hp SO with a box at half levels and he has a 325 hp with and edge j/a maxed. He had a 4k+ redline and I had a 3k limited redline. I had a 100k+ miles on and he had a fresh 10k miles. He had 5speeds with a triple disc and electronic control...I had a 4 speed with triple disc and hydraulic control. He had an aftermarket intake....I had stock airbox and filter. He had a full 4" exhaust I had stock exhaust at the time. His tranny and engine were running hot. Mine wasn't. You use what ya brought and even with my tranny rebuild he had a lot more into the truck just the wrong truck. He did take me on every downhill!!! for a 1/4 of a mile. For two big fat duallies this is as fair as it gets. ks
Make all the excuses you want. here is the truth. since I actually had a 04 6.0 with the juice attitude here is how it actuall works........it will shift like crap from 2-3 slipping for about 3 seconds before the clutches actually take hold. then it will defule from 3rd to 4th for about 2 seconds (2 seconds for you to catch up) then it will shift from 4th to 5th and defule again for about 2 seconds (another 2 seconds for you to catch up). so in reality the ford blew your doors off!!!! you just didnt know it.....not to mention the ford is atleast 500lbs heavier than you!
as for the low mileage comparison thing.....the ford had 10k on it wich with the juice/attitude is pretty good.....I blew 2 tranny's at 5k each running the juice. then I beefed it up with a clutch kit and ran it at 165 hp everyday with 37's for 10 k and never had another lick of problems with it. the upgrade kit was only 600 bucks!!! try bullet proffing a dodge tranny for under 4k!!!
im really getting sick of all this ford bashing when in truth the dodge really isnt any better. I smoked my dodge tranny at 3500k running only the 100hp juice/ attitude!!! Thats better than ford? my mileage is 2-3 miles per gallon worse than my ford....is that better?
I know you guys will just come back and say "oh...well they still sell ford junk 6.0's go get one"......thats not the point... the point is DODGE is not gods gifts to trucks regaurdless what you guys seem think... I have had 2 fords and now my first dodge. I will say they all have there strong points and weaknesses.
I did alot of reasearch and reading on here before I went with a dodge. You guys talked them up so much I thought it would be the greatest truck on earth.....well I will say I more than little disapointed in the truck after all the praising on here.
the funny thing is I was on the ford diesel websights for years and I never seen this level of insecurity on having to bash the other brand to make you feel like your truck is so much better.....its rediculius.!
I see alot of posts bashing ford problems...lets list dodges hottest issues....
things fords dont do:
1)break input shafts, output shafts or any shafts for that matter!!!!
2)break flexplates....
3)have sloppy weak torque convertors.....
4)death wobble.....
5)runaway truck from popping outa park......
6) runaway truck from throttle sticking wide open......
7)lift pumps dying leaving you stranded.....
8)tearing door seals....
9)leaking power steering.....
10)air conditioning leaks.......
11)balljoint problems.....
12) chattering wiper blades...
13) squeaky rear window.....
14)defroster door sticking......
I could go on and on.....I know fords also have there own list of problems....I just thought I would point out that DODGE IS NOT INFOWLABLE LIKE YOU ALL THINK!!!!!!
Im not saying im going back to ford anytime soon... just trying to put some reality back into this sight......"to each his own" and happy motoring......
03-06-2006, 01:27 PM
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JCro, For those that have followed for a while, I too had an 04 F-350 4 door long box srw. Tranny went out twice in 30k bone stock hauling nothing. Mileage was ok once it hit 10k. I personally only put about 15k on that truck.
I hauled up to 38k combined with the tst as high as 7x7 for 90k before the tranny went out due to the flexplate. It only slipped towing this weight at 8x8. If the flexplate hadn't fatigued it wouldn't have gone out until a scheduled rebuild. Anyone can thrash a truck. Putting a performance box on before a truck is properly broke in is ok for some but not for me. If you up the performance before the truck is broke in you will have problems. I go my truck with 5k on it and put over 15k on it towing before the TST. Once broke in I started using synthetic oil. The fact that you made it a whole 10k with 37's and the tranny was ok with a 600dollar upgrade is great. I've put 10k on in three weeks. The trucks were about the same weight. We were doing 80mph minimum and I was in od the whole time. I don't think he was shifting down to 2nd or 3rd on the hills! Fact is that buddy had $60k into his truck and I had about $45k. Fact is that the Ford tranny has problems from personal experience. The power seemed to go down as time went on. I also had 3 Dmaxes. I'l stick with the Dodge because it is reliable. Its problems are known and any fix is a necessary upgrade for performance. My ball joints were still ok at 130k. Ujoints go out if you tow heavy. Some people will have problems with any truck even a good one. I'm glad we ditched the Ford
( business partner lost 15k) as with the Dodge we have no problems getting work done. Everyone always says I wish Ford had a Cummins and some do the switch but the Cummins is already in a good truck. Chattering wiper blades....its like a list of every problem ever found in a Dodge truck.
The estimated statistics are Dodge Tranny problems 18% Ford Tranny problems 78%. Ford injector problems 40%, Dodge injector problems 5%. Dodge turbo problems 5%, Ford 30%. All other problems Dodge 28%, Ford 30%. The Ford is as good as the Dodge except for the 6 oh and the tranny. The Dodge is as Good as the Ford except for the Cummins. To quote the Ford tranny specialist...the Ford tranny has some of the best and worst parts ever put in a truck tranny. JCro, hows your buddy making out with his tranny
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I hauled up to 38k combined with the tst as high as 7x7 for 90k before the tranny went out due to the flexplate. It only slipped towing this weight at 8x8. If the flexplate hadn't fatigued it wouldn't have gone out until a scheduled rebuild. Anyone can thrash a truck. Putting a performance box on before a truck is properly broke in is ok for some but not for me. If you up the performance before the truck is broke in you will have problems. I go my truck with 5k on it and put over 15k on it towing before the TST. Once broke in I started using synthetic oil. The fact that you made it a whole 10k with 37's and the tranny was ok with a 600dollar upgrade is great. I've put 10k on in three weeks. The trucks were about the same weight. We were doing 80mph minimum and I was in od the whole time. I don't think he was shifting down to 2nd or 3rd on the hills! Fact is that buddy had $60k into his truck and I had about $45k. Fact is that the Ford tranny has problems from personal experience. The power seemed to go down as time went on. I also had 3 Dmaxes. I'l stick with the Dodge because it is reliable. Its problems are known and any fix is a necessary upgrade for performance. My ball joints were still ok at 130k. Ujoints go out if you tow heavy. Some people will have problems with any truck even a good one. I'm glad we ditched the Ford
( business partner lost 15k) as with the Dodge we have no problems getting work done. Everyone always says I wish Ford had a Cummins and some do the switch but the Cummins is already in a good truck. Chattering wiper blades....its like a list of every problem ever found in a Dodge truck.
The estimated statistics are Dodge Tranny problems 18% Ford Tranny problems 78%. Ford injector problems 40%, Dodge injector problems 5%. Dodge turbo problems 5%, Ford 30%. All other problems Dodge 28%, Ford 30%. The Ford is as good as the Dodge except for the 6 oh and the tranny. The Dodge is as Good as the Ford except for the Cummins. To quote the Ford tranny specialist...the Ford tranny has some of the best and worst parts ever put in a truck tranny. JCro, hows your buddy making out with his tranny
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03-06-2006, 01:38 PM
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I will sing my praises all the way back to a dodge dealership and buy another one when I wear this one out. I am happy with my purchase. Neighbor has an 04 PSD and is wanting to switch after driving in my truck.
03-06-2006, 01:42 PM
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Like I said they aboth have there problems.....that list of dodge problems are all recent posts that ive seen on low mileage trucks.......................im not here to fight a dodge/ford war. I like my dodge in many ways and I liked my ford in many ways......I think someday I would like to do a cummins retro into a ford and would probably be really happy with it.. It just costs a whole lot of money......................until then.....dodge is my truck of choice.............
03-06-2006, 03:03 PM
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Let me have fun this one!
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"I see alot of posts bashing ford problems...lets list dodges hottest issues....
things fords dont do:
1)break input shafts, output shafts or any shafts for that matter!!!!
It would take torque and a converter that actually locks to do this....both of which the 6.0 does not have.
2)break flexplates....
See above
3)have sloppy weak torque convertors.....
Debatable...I think the Ford is not that great either. It is just better matched with a motor that NEEDS to be above 3k to make any power.
4)death wobble.....
Only with morons that can't get an alignment. The Ford (except the "brand new coil sprung" ones) ride so rough it is silly.
5)runaway truck from popping outa park......
I guess that has happed to a few...
6) runaway truck from throttle sticking wide open......
Diesel's don't have throttles....
7)lift pumps dying leaving you stranded.....
How many??? Not very.
8)tearing door seals....
Mine has not...but for those that do...it is fixed free.
9)leaking power steering.....
Who?
10)air conditioning leaks.......
Who?
11)balljoint problems.....
Who?
12) chattering wiper blades...
Who?
13) squeaky rear window.....
Who?
14)defroster door sticking......
Some I guess.
The point is...I was a die hard ford fan for years...and years. The 6.0 uh oh made me run hard....fast and far. My finace's 04 dually has gone through 6 injectors ans still seems to lose one or two every time the horse trailer is hooked up. There is NO bottom end to get moving and plenty of small things like broken switches, falling off pedals, broken seatbelts etc. to complain about too!
Ford has gone downhill for a few years now...I hope they turn around.
I have broken an intermediate shaft and popped a relief valve in the quest for 600 hp.....but I had one other thing break or go wrong in 82k. Nothing. 82k of driving it like a race car no matter where or with what behind it...since every drive is a race for me anyways! The relief valve was a stupid experimental error...and frankly...I should have not been running any OEM shafts with 550+ hp to the ground and locked up shifts. So I will take credit for those.
My brother's dodge...same ole sucess story!
Quote...
"I see alot of posts bashing ford problems...lets list dodges hottest issues....
things fords dont do:
1)break input shafts, output shafts or any shafts for that matter!!!!
It would take torque and a converter that actually locks to do this....both of which the 6.0 does not have.
2)break flexplates....
See above
3)have sloppy weak torque convertors.....
Debatable...I think the Ford is not that great either. It is just better matched with a motor that NEEDS to be above 3k to make any power.
4)death wobble.....
Only with morons that can't get an alignment. The Ford (except the "brand new coil sprung" ones) ride so rough it is silly.
5)runaway truck from popping outa park......
I guess that has happed to a few...
6) runaway truck from throttle sticking wide open......
Diesel's don't have throttles....
7)lift pumps dying leaving you stranded.....
How many??? Not very.
8)tearing door seals....
Mine has not...but for those that do...it is fixed free.
9)leaking power steering.....
Who?
10)air conditioning leaks.......
Who?
11)balljoint problems.....
Who?
12) chattering wiper blades...
Who?
13) squeaky rear window.....
Who?
14)defroster door sticking......
Some I guess.
The point is...I was a die hard ford fan for years...and years. The 6.0 uh oh made me run hard....fast and far. My finace's 04 dually has gone through 6 injectors ans still seems to lose one or two every time the horse trailer is hooked up. There is NO bottom end to get moving and plenty of small things like broken switches, falling off pedals, broken seatbelts etc. to complain about too!
Ford has gone downhill for a few years now...I hope they turn around.
I have broken an intermediate shaft and popped a relief valve in the quest for 600 hp.....but I had one other thing break or go wrong in 82k. Nothing. 82k of driving it like a race car no matter where or with what behind it...since every drive is a race for me anyways! The relief valve was a stupid experimental error...and frankly...I should have not been running any OEM shafts with 550+ hp to the ground and locked up shifts. So I will take credit for those.
My brother's dodge...same ole sucess story!
03-06-2006, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cquestad
Let me have fun this one!
Quote...
"I see alot of posts bashing ford problems...lets list dodges hottest issues....
things fords dont do:
1)break input shafts, output shafts or any shafts for that matter!!!!
It would take torque and a converter that actually locks to do this....both of which the 6.0 does not have.
2)break flexplates....
See above
3)have sloppy weak torque convertors.....
Debatable...I think the Ford is not that great either. It is just better matched with a motor that NEEDS to be above 3k to make any power.
4)death wobble.....
Only with morons that can't get an alignment. The Ford (except the "brand new coil sprung" ones) ride so rough it is silly.
5)runaway truck from popping outa park......
I guess that has happed to a few...
6) runaway truck from throttle sticking wide open......
Diesel's don't have throttles....
7)lift pumps dying leaving you stranded.....
How many??? Not very.
8)tearing door seals....
Mine has not...but for those that do...it is fixed free.
9)leaking power steering.....
Who?
10)air conditioning leaks.......
Who?
11)balljoint problems.....
Who?
12) chattering wiper blades...
Who?
13) squeaky rear window.....
Who?
14)defroster door sticking......
Some I guess.
The point is...I was a die hard ford fan for years...and years. The 6.0 uh oh made me run hard....fast and far. My finace's 04 dually has gone through 6 injectors ans still seems to lose one or two every time the horse trailer is hooked up. There is NO bottom end to get moving and plenty of small things like broken switches, falling off pedals, broken seatbelts etc. to complain about too!
Ford has gone downhill for a few years now...I hope they turn around.
I have broken an intermediate shaft and popped a relief valve in the quest for 600 hp.....but I had one other thing break or go wrong in 82k. Nothing. 82k of driving it like a race car no matter where or with what behind it...since every drive is a race for me anyways! The relief valve was a stupid experimental error...and frankly...I should have not been running any OEM shafts with 550+ hp to the ground and locked up shifts. So I will take credit for those.
My brother's dodge...same ole sucess story!
Quote...
"I see alot of posts bashing ford problems...lets list dodges hottest issues....
things fords dont do:
1)break input shafts, output shafts or any shafts for that matter!!!!
It would take torque and a converter that actually locks to do this....both of which the 6.0 does not have.
2)break flexplates....
See above
3)have sloppy weak torque convertors.....
Debatable...I think the Ford is not that great either. It is just better matched with a motor that NEEDS to be above 3k to make any power.
4)death wobble.....
Only with morons that can't get an alignment. The Ford (except the "brand new coil sprung" ones) ride so rough it is silly.
5)runaway truck from popping outa park......
I guess that has happed to a few...
6) runaway truck from throttle sticking wide open......
Diesel's don't have throttles....
7)lift pumps dying leaving you stranded.....
How many??? Not very.
8)tearing door seals....
Mine has not...but for those that do...it is fixed free.
9)leaking power steering.....
Who?
10)air conditioning leaks.......
Who?
11)balljoint problems.....
Who?
12) chattering wiper blades...
Who?
13) squeaky rear window.....
Who?
14)defroster door sticking......
Some I guess.
The point is...I was a die hard ford fan for years...and years. The 6.0 uh oh made me run hard....fast and far. My finace's 04 dually has gone through 6 injectors ans still seems to lose one or two every time the horse trailer is hooked up. There is NO bottom end to get moving and plenty of small things like broken switches, falling off pedals, broken seatbelts etc. to complain about too!
Ford has gone downhill for a few years now...I hope they turn around.
I have broken an intermediate shaft and popped a relief valve in the quest for 600 hp.....but I had one other thing break or go wrong in 82k. Nothing. 82k of driving it like a race car no matter where or with what behind it...since every drive is a race for me anyways! The relief valve was a stupid experimental error...and frankly...I should have not been running any OEM shafts with 550+ hp to the ground and locked up shifts. So I will take credit for those.
My brother's dodge...same ole sucess story!
Like I said im not trying to start a war......obviously you dont read very many posts around here or you would see that everything I wrote has been posted on more than once! this is the kinda post im talking about you guys are in denial that there are any problems with dodges!
I have a squeeky rear window and chattering wiper blades. all since the truck was brand new.....there are many others on here also that have poted about it. im not gonna argue with every joe on here like you about these issues anymore im done.......SEE YA!!
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JCROMAN,
Maybe you should look at my "post count". I do read alot....too many!
I have never come out and stated my "beefs" before....but you kinda made me feel like it when you started making mountains out of molehills and claiming diesel's had throttles.
I believe in numbers...and it seems that the numbers above do show the truth in the Dodges reliablity. It is my personal experience as well.
Get some new blades...and put a little silicon on your back window...
I will do it for you if you don't feel up for the challenge.
My blades lasted 60k maybe...I thought that was pretty good...considering my windshield is a rough pited mother....
Forums are supposed to be fun....and a little fun making does not hurt anyone!
Maybe you should look at my "post count". I do read alot....too many!
I have never come out and stated my "beefs" before....but you kinda made me feel like it when you started making mountains out of molehills and claiming diesel's had throttles.
I believe in numbers...and it seems that the numbers above do show the truth in the Dodges reliablity. It is my personal experience as well.
Get some new blades...and put a little silicon on your back window...
I will do it for you if you don't feel up for the challenge.
My blades lasted 60k maybe...I thought that was pretty good...considering my windshield is a rough pited mother....
Forums are supposed to be fun....and a little fun making does not hurt anyone!