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Old 12-08-2007 | 11:20 AM
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Night at the track need help...

Ok went to the track last night. first run was a 15.9 first time on a track ever, still stock clutch. started in 2nd and didn't dump just let out fast but normal. ran 5 times and the other 4 times i couldn't lock up i would spin a little in 2nd all or 3rd and 1/2 of 4th. track was very wet i am running my stock tires that have very little tread left on them. any info on what i can do to get faster times and what to do for tires in my 2wd to keep from spinning so much. also a way that my clutch will last for now.

Time Slip on first run....."best run"

reaction 1.44 "i know this needs work"
60' 2.67
330' 7.03
1/8 ET 10.54
1/8 MPH 71.76
1/4 ET 15.95
1/4 MPH 86.92

But the good thing about this run was i beat the ford buy 1.4 sec. that was the only thing i was looking to do but i wish my times were faster.

any help would be great and i know that the first thing said is going to be get a clutch. Trust me i know.

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Old 12-08-2007 | 12:19 PM
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Well I think you already know what you need. Clutch and tires, maybe traction bars if you really want to race a lot. Tires can make as much difference as clutch probably. Never tried a manual Cummins at the track, but just seems it would be challenging with three pedals and two feet.

This thread may have some helpful info for you.

https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...d.php?t=181094
Old 12-08-2007 | 01:11 PM
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Well, let's see it was wet, your tires are worn, it's 2wd, it's a 6spd, no clutch.... Come on now, I say you did pretty good considering. I thought the reason for going was to beat the F250 PS, which you did. The rest is obvious. Your reaction time and 60ft time both could use some work, but that will come, did you leave hard on the last yellow? Boosted launches (12-20psi)make all the difference in the world! I should have gone!
Old 12-08-2007 | 06:40 PM
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Well, let's see it was wet, your tires are worn, it's 2wd, it's a 6spd, no clutch.... Come on now, I say you did pretty good considering. I thought the reason for going was to beat the F250 PS, which you did. The rest is obvious. Your reaction time and 60ft time both could use some work, but that will come, did you leave hard on the last yellow? Boosted launches (12-20psi)make all the difference in the world! I should have gone!
Yes i did beat the FERD and i'm not going to let him live that one down. but if i can get my hands on some slicks before i get a clutch will it slip my clutch? and yeah i wish someone would have gone to help me out a little first drag and i left on the green just found out about the last yellow today and i for some reason fall asleep at the light. but out well i am planning on going to San Antonio next week Fri they are closed Sat. i don't think i will be going back to Little River till it is summer so maybe it won't be as wet. anyway i ran #7 first and #5 second and if i would have lock up like i did the first time i would have had at least the same time.

the second run on # 5 was....

Reaction 1.72
60' 2.75
330' 7.51
1/8 ET 11.15
1/8 MPH 69.38
1/4 ET 16.66
1/4 MPH 89.34

and i spun 2nd and 3rd locked up in 4th and that was on #5 "smarty"

on #7 my 1/8 mph was 71.76 and 1/4 mph was 86.92 and on #5 my 1/8 mph was 69.3 and my 1/4 mph was 88.34 so should i run #5 next week or go for broke and run #7.

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Old 12-08-2007 | 06:46 PM
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Well I think you already know what you need. Clutch and tires, maybe traction bars if you really want to race a lot. Tires can make as much difference as clutch probably. Never tried a manual Cummins at the track, but just seems it would be challenging with three pedals and two feet.

This thread may have some helpful info for you.

https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...d.php?t=181094
i was reading on this thread and they were talking about leaving in 3rd and getting rpm's to 2k somthing and letting out of the clutch to take off. that sounds to me like it would take about two times of that and my clutch would be junk. am i right???
Old 12-08-2007 | 07:36 PM
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I have an auto with stock 245/70-17 tires and noticed my 60' are a little better if I let them spin a little rather than trying to baby it. But my best 60' is 2.07 so Im not doing that great myself.
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Get some RVT and Gas. and mix in a dawn soap bottle and have a friend lay it down on the track side of the water box roll up in it and then spin em up a tad then stage and be ready to hook. What do you mean by the track was wet?
Old 12-08-2007 | 10:52 PM
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Get some RVT and Gas. and mix in a dawn soap bottle and have a friend lay it down on the track side of the water box roll up in it and then spin em up a tad then stage and be ready to hook. What do you mean by the track was wet?
They used to much water for one, it was also humid and started to settle on the track. the cars that weren't running had water beading up on them as well. i'm not trying to make it sound like that was my only problem, i am only saying that it couldn't have helped any. i am going to try and find some better tires to run in. i wasn't the only one having problems hooking up, everyone was complaining about it. i am going to try it at another track and hope i can do better. and as far as the mix you are talking about not sure i know what RVT is and will they let you do that or do you have to sneak it on there?

about the slicks does anyone know it will hurt my clutch, being that they will hook up like no ones bizz?
Old 12-08-2007 | 11:13 PM
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The Drag Strip is an expensive place. Your slicks probably won't destroy your clutch right away. You will notice a big difference. You will also start getting used to the launch and being on the track. As you improve you will push your ride harder. Your clutch might have survived but you will end up buying a new built one anyway. It's a huge snowball effect. Very addicting. It's expensive but it makes you smile the whole time and the sounds and smells and excitement make it worth it. At least for a little while anyway.

Before you throw slicks on try to find a set of take off's that have good tires still. They are cheap and give you an extra set of rims for the slicks.
Old 12-09-2007 | 12:09 AM
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The Drag Strip is an expensive place. Your slicks probably won't destroy your clutch right away. You will notice a big difference. You will also start getting used to the launch and being on the track. As you improve you will push your ride harder. Your clutch might have survived but you will end up buying a new built one anyway. It's a huge snowball effect. Very addicting. It's expensive but it makes you smile the whole time and the sounds and smells and excitement make it worth it. At least for a little while anyway.

Before you throw slicks on try to find a set of take off's that have good tires still. They are cheap and give you an extra set of rims for the slicks.
Thanks for the post. I have Dana 80 rearend right? and it is limited slip? if i did true Posi will this help a little or alot? if i do take offs or get new tires what kind should i get street or A/T and what brand?

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Old 12-09-2007 | 06:22 AM
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Whos says that racing can get addicting? Nope not me I can stop whenever I want to I just don't want to.
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Thanks for the post. I have Dana 80 rearend right? and it is limited slip? if i did true Posi will this help a little or alot? if i do take offs or get new tires what kind should i get street or A/T and what brand?

Thanks,
Eric, Are you going to turn this thing into a drag truck? I don't think you are, but I could be wrong. The money you will be pi$$ing away on slicks, posi-track(which you don't need) would be better used on this clutch we've talked about for a year now or some injectors, or a Quadzilla. You could also get an E rated set of tires that will hook up much better than what you have. My Toyos are very sticky. This is all stuff that you can use everyday and are not only for the track. We need a cold beer event so we can talk some sense into you!
Old 12-09-2007 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Fire Rescue124
. I have Dana 80 rearend right? and it is limited slip? if i did true Posi will this help a little or alot? if i do take offs or get new tires what kind should i get street or A/T and what brand?

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You have an american axle

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RVT is a resine type of glue that they prep the track with and as it gets hotter and hotter it will get stickyer and stickyer. The gas mixed with the rvt in the bottle will make things get sticky even quicker. If you put a drop of this mix on your index finger and thumb and rub them together after a few seconds and try to pull them apart they will be stuck together and you cant pull them apart LOL. If you ever try and walk on the track you will notice a well preped track your shoes will stick to it. Most tracks if you ask and tell them what the mixture is will probably let you if it is just a e/t street night. But then again some won't.
Old 12-10-2007 | 12:53 AM
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your axle is a AAM 11.5 inch, I personally think it is better. I have never even heard of anybody snapping one of these but I am sure it has been done.


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