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Old 03-21-2008, 08:20 PM
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I'm doing it myself. I just want my axle centered up after it's level. It would drive me crazy if it wasn't.
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I got the thuren trackbar just in case....Sean Lorenz said it's not needed, but that it's a noticable difference...
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Originally Posted by DiEseLjunKy
I'm doing it myself. I just want my axle centered up after it's level. It would drive me crazy if it wasn't.
then it seems like a decision between the new bushings for around $100, or an adjustable track bar for around $350- maybe someone who has the lazarsmith bushings can let you know how they like them.
Old 03-22-2008, 08:03 AM
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I installed the Thuren bar after running my Lorenz 2.25 kit for quite awhile. Difference in driving was unnoticible. Cosmetically it looks better. Sean zinc coats his for durability.
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With my Kore lvl kit I can't tell any differance visually. I know if I was to do any more the 3" I would change out track bar for sure.
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A half-inch of axle offset isn't real obvious on our big trucks w/o looking for it; but just a leveling kit changes the geometry enough so the tires rub on one set of control arms before the other.
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Originally Posted by XLR8R
A half-inch of axle offset isn't real obvious on our big trucks w/o looking for it; but just a leveling kit changes the geometry enough so the tires rub on one set of control arms before the other.
this is true, i have hardcore rubbing on my passenger side compared to my drivers side
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Basically, not getting a adjustable trac bar after raising the front ends. The only thing you may feel is bump steer when hitting something head on.

W/ the adjustable trac bar. You will eliminate most bump steer and a little better/stable cornering or tightness in steering your truck.

So, yes it's not needed to replace the stocker w/ an adjustable trac bar. It is a good idea if your going to drop money on a Carli/KORE/Lorenz/Thuren Suspension (level kit to grand daddy top of the line kit). To get the whole front end done.

It's like putting a 100 hp tuner on your stock truck. It's not needed for a aux lift pump to help out the stocker, but eventually the stocker will go out. Just like the stock trac bar bushing. You will eventually need to address the trac bar.

Building a suspension is just like building HP. Something always needs to be replaced to support another part/component upgrade.

Hope this helps!
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Originally Posted by firemansdiesel

W/ the adjustable trac bar. You will eliminate most bump steer and a little better/stable cornering or tightness in steering your truck.
absolutely true....
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I'd like to have a 6" lift on there some day so I'm gonna go with the adj track bar, thanks for the comments.
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Originally Posted by DiEseLjunKy
I'm doing it myself. I just want my axle centered up after it's level. It would drive me crazy if it wasn't.
Yep! I just ordered my Thuren adj track bar from Defiant, those guys are great Thanks Paul!

Like dieseljunky said it would drive me nuts knowing that my axle was offcenter so I figured I'd do it right. I thought about the offset bushings but it looked like they would wear out quick being offcenter from the get go, plus I like having the adustability for future projects.
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Originally Posted by megaboom
this is true, i have hardcore rubbing on my passenger side compared to my drivers side
I know you can't stand the suspense waiting for the Brown Truck!

Kore leveling kit and track bar-dsc00510-large-.jpg

Now you'll have something to keep polished underneath the truck!
Old 03-24-2008, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by lniemeyer2
I thought about the offset bushings but it looked like they would wear out quick being offcenter from the get go, plus I like having the adustability for future projects.
We dropped one of the 1st trackbars to have our zero deflection bushings installed over the weekend to inspect them.... no wear - looked like they were just pressed in.

Even if the pre-lubed insert does eventually wear (which is doubtful, since it's designed for high load @ high RPM - which the trackbar isn't subjected to), you can replace it in a few minutes w/o even removing the trackbar from the truck.

BTW - the hybrid bushing's core is readily removed and re-installed to change the trackbar's effective length.
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$95 seems a little rich for pair of machined nylon bushings with a bronze bushing pressed in. No?
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No - not when you do the math.

HD polymer bearing shells with power transmission-grade thermoplastic cores and pre-lubed inserts, with 304SS shims for the OEM trackbar brackets.

So, 2 shells + 2 cores + 2 inserts + 2 (or 4 depending on application) shims + shop time to machine to length, ID & OD and to press the parts together... plus the cost of packaging and shipping with tracking & insurance - all for the price listed, out of which the credit card companies skim their share of right off the top.

..... "Rich" I wish!


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