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Old 03-19-2006, 10:09 AM
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what other mods do you have, from my understanding any of the hp ratings from any aftermarket product are rated to give you that much gain if you have the other peripherals to go along with it, like injectors, high output fuel pump, intake and exhaust
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Originally Posted by Argo
what other mods do you have, from my understanding any of the hp ratings from any aftermarket product are rated to give you that much gain if you have the other peripherals to go along with it, like injectors, high output fuel pump, intake and exhaust
At the time, I had the OEM exhaust with a Flowmaster #53553 muffler; should really make no difference as I still had 244.9 on #0, 301.2 on #3, 333.0 on #4, and 368.4 on #5.....the only thing that changed during the dyno run was the selections of Levels 0, 3, 4, and 5. Not exactly sure the 5" Magnaflow will make a huge difference over my last numbers.
In a nutshell, all my mods are listed in my signature.

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I have a 305/555, and the new stage 5 was a huge difference over the old stage 5. I have heard that the Hot juice adds 180/440, even for our motors. BTW, you can get the upgrade for free if you are a TDR member.
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again, in your sig I see nothing about fuel system? This was the main thing that was made a point to me when I got mine. Our stock fuel systems cant push that much fuel. i never had the edge without the hot upgrade but I know that with it, it is pretty dang fast. I see some post that they can hardly spin their tires, well I can hardly not spin them. On level 4 I can spin all the way through first and get them in second too.
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Originally Posted by Argo
again, in your sig I see nothing about fuel system?
That's because it's STOCK ! (unless you consider a Fleetguard FS19579 fuel filter non-stock)

At idle above 65*F, I'll normally have 7.5--8.0 psi fuel pressure. If I romp on it, I'll drop it down to 2 psi or a little less (I usually pay more attention to the Attitude Monitor & EGT's). The HPCR engines rely more on fuel volume than pressure in lower HP engines like mine.......get into the 500+ HP engines and I'm sure a pusher pump or FASS system would be an absolute necessity as the CP3 would be starved for fuel.

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Old 03-19-2006, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by maynard3
How come this dyno pic shows me going from 244 rwhp (Level 0) to 368 rwhp (Level 5) ? Again, if a Hot Juice update is just going to give the 305/555 guys 25 rwhp, why bother ? From what little I've read on various sites, the Juice w/Attitude actually gives the 305/555 guys better increases than the 325/600 guys because EDGE tweaks the rail pressure in addition to duration and timing.
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At least read your manual, if you are not going to believe me or call them.
Mine says level 5 is 100/250 increase. (also what edge tech told me)

They add preasure to the 305/555 motors because ours use less preasure stock, than the 600 motors do.
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Originally Posted by maynard3
Again, if a Hot Juice update is just going to give the 305/555 guys 25 rwhp, why bother ?
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25hp?
It is supposed to give a 50hp increase.

By the way, with the new boost elbow, what max boost preasure do you see?
I'm seeing 32lb max.
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Originally Posted by Capp35
25hp?
It is supposed to give a 50hp increase.

By the way, with the new boost elbow, what max boost preasure do you see?
I'm seeing 32lb max.
Have you even thrown yours on the dyno yet, Capp35 ?

I came up with 25 hp increase based on the alleged fact of your 150 rwhp statement and my real-life 125 rwhp dyno sheet.

Let the whizzzzzzzing contest begin !

I guess you'll accuse me of photoshopping my .jpeg of my dyno run next !

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No two engines are the same. Plus you have a few mods that could increase the stock hp some.

No Whizzing, just stating Edges Facts. I'd think the people who built/programmed it whould have better knowledge on their product.

Geeeezzzz
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Originally Posted by Capp35
No two engines are the same. Plus you have a few mods that could increase the stock hp some.
That's not the issue.....the issue at hand is :

My truck makes x rwhp w/Juice & Attitude on Level 0.
My truck makes x+56.3 rwhp w/Juice & Attitude on Level 3.
My truck makes x+88.1 rwhp w/Juice & Attitude on Level 4.
My truck makes x+123.5 rwhp w/Juice & Attitude on Level 5.

You're missing the point entirely.

My point is the Juice w/Attitude on MY truck yielded 123.5 rwhp on Level 5....not 100 rwhp as you say they're only rated for.

So have you dyno'ed your truck or not ?
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I've heard the juice for our trucks was rated for less than it actually puts out, some guys on dynos pick up more power than advertised, that's the bomb yo!
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Geeeezzz dude get a life.
I don't care if your truck makes 500 rwhp and no I haven't had mined dynoed, nor do I care too. Nor do I care about the actual power you have on a dyno sheet.

This topic is about advertised horsepower settings from Edge. Open your manual.
Read the topic, this is the question the orignal person of this thread asked. Which I was answering.

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