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Old 08-11-2008 | 12:41 PM
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Cost savings nil

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Do you guys get back what the kit costs in fuel savings? Or what is the reasoning here? Thanks
Peace of mind is what I get. Two Timken bearing supporting each hub that are greaseable, readily available, and easy to install. The mileage improvement is minimal but the wear and tear on the front drive line components is also reduced a little. Every couple of weeks I kick the transfer case into 4 High with the hubs in FREE and give the differential a spin to get oil up around the gears, bearings and rubber seals. I'm not very happy with the single wheel bearing supporting the front end load and side thrust on the wheel hub stubbly axle shafts even on good roads.

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Old 08-24-2008 | 06:53 PM
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I must be pretty strong cause i did the studs and races w/ a hammer and punch! Wasnt very hard at all and that was 2 years ago and still no prob. the only thing i dont like about the ems kit is the spindles are through bolted and not like the others!


Originally Posted by rootercycles
I am the one that posted all of the needed help from the machine shop. I have worked on many different projects myself including 4X4 hubs. The EMS kit, although a great value, required a lot of assembly. The wheel studs were exceptionally tight, and a hammer, punch or any other hand tool would not have done the job. There isn't a human alive that can make 20 tons of pressure that was needed to press in the wheel studs. My kit also came without the bearing races installed. The problem with this, is that the races are so large, that you would need a 3 inch socket in order to push against the races in order to seat them. Again, I needed a shop that could do this without ruining the races. My u-joints were also very difficult to get out of the Dodge stub shafts. I wanted to reuse them, so I took them to a shop to have them taken out, and reinstalled in the new stub shafts. I probably could have gotten them out, but destroyed them in the process.
If you are even remotely mechanically inclined, you can install the EMS kit. They may have increased the amount of assembly since I purchased mine a year ago.
Old 08-24-2008 | 10:54 PM
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Hey spooled05, what do you mean the spindles are "through bolted?" Do you mean the studs don't hammer into the spindle but threa through?

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Old 08-25-2008 | 11:11 AM
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This is an upgrade only to the front wheels, right?

Sorry for the dumb question but I'm seeing a SRW and DRW option and I'm not sure I'm getting it. Is it just the front wheels we are upgrading with this or is it being done to the front and rear?
Old 08-25-2008 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by rogers259
This is an upgrade only to the front wheels, right?

Sorry for the dumb question but I'm seeing a SRW and DRW option and I'm not sure I'm getting it. Is it just the front wheels we are upgrading with this or is it being done to the front and rear?
Front only. The difference between the SRW and DRW setup is the front on a DRW requires a longer hub (or spacer) because of the large offset on the rim. I believe EMS is the only setup that will work with DRW rims.

I checked in again with EMS and I'm still on the list! Wahoo!!!!!!!! Still waiting.....tick tock....tick tock......
Old 08-25-2008 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel Doc
try puting the hub in an oven and the races in the freezer. They will usually drop rite in.
This is great advice, except you should probably put the races in the oven and the hub in the freezer.

As metal heats up it will expand, and will shrink when it gets cold. Expanding the hub and shrinking the race will make things worse.

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Old 08-25-2008 | 08:16 PM
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This is great advice, except you should probably put the races in the oven and the hub in the freezer.

As metal heats up it will expand, and will shrink when it gets cold. Expanding the hub and shrinking the race will make things worse.

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Doesn't the race go inside the hub, so he would be right....no???
Old 08-25-2008 | 08:22 PM
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Old 08-25-2008 | 08:28 PM
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DynaTrac

I run the Dyna Trac. Couldn't be happier with them. Side benefit besides highly reduced front end wear is 2/3 mpgs. The fuel prices weren't nearly as bad when I got mine as they are now so I'm very happy with my decision. They are the base line that everyone else measures their product against,.. tell ya something?
Old 08-25-2008 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NDanecker
Doesn't the race go inside the hub, so he would be right....no???
Forgive me, it has been a few years since I have had to do this... I was thinking spindle...

If the races go in the hub then you would want to reduce the race and increase the hub so I stand corrected.

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Old 08-25-2008 | 10:30 PM
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I"am also on the waiting list at EMS, just waiting the first list
Old 08-26-2008 | 01:02 AM
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Seems like its DynaTrac or EMS...why not Solid Axle? Looks to me like SA has a very reliable product that would be faster to install. Searches lead me to believe that most everyone seems pleased with SA...So why the other two?
Old 08-26-2008 | 07:46 AM
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they are all pretty good kits. If they weren't comparable to each other, one or the other would have the lions market share.
Old 08-26-2008 | 08:57 AM
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I do not think Solid Axle has been around as long as the other 2. I chose Solid Axle because it came with the axle universal already attached to the outer shaft, that I needed anyway and also the rest of the hub was completely assembled. I am sure the others will start assembling there's as this is a big labor saver for the installer and the market will help drive this to the manufacturer's. I am very happy with my choice.
I am currently on vacation and have my 1st all highway MPG 21.8(my best previous was 20.5) I have every tank since purchase documented.

Best of luck with your decision to All... Jeff
Old 08-26-2008 | 09:35 AM
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Any experience onthe 2nd gen trucks?



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