Fass or air dog
#16
Myself and others have made up their own systems. You can get Walbro pumps on Ebay for pretty cheap.
I'm not sold on the air in diesel thing. If this were such a problem, wouldn't all the engineers at Cummins, CAT, etc. have added some type of air removal to their engines already?
I'm not sold on the air in diesel thing. If this were such a problem, wouldn't all the engineers at Cummins, CAT, etc. have added some type of air removal to their engines already?
#17
Myself and others have made up their own systems. You can get Walbro pumps on Ebay for pretty cheap.
I'm not sold on the air in diesel thing. If this were such a problem, wouldn't all the engineers at Cummins, CAT, etc. have added some type of air removal to their engines already?
I'm not sold on the air in diesel thing. If this were such a problem, wouldn't all the engineers at Cummins, CAT, etc. have added some type of air removal to their engines already?
#18
Cummins and DD and Cat etc all addressed the problem in various service bulletins.
One function of the CP3 is to bypass air bubbles back to the tank - this works best when the internal lift pump is drawing fuel from the tank - it is capable of up to 20"HG vacuum on the filter and line - the fuel cap is vented for 1psi pressure as well as 2"HG vacuum, so the pre-filter line and tank is limited to that 2" - that slight vacuum reduces fuel surface tension, allowing aeration bubbles to escape - any pump located up on or near the engine uses vacuum to draw the fuel from the tank, so the microscopic bubbles coalesce into larger bubbles, which are then returned to the tank - the B.Eckams FASS and C.Eckams AIRDOG systems utilize those concepts to remove and return air (and excess fuel) back to the tank, where it is released into the filler tube, never to trouble Mankind again.................
One function of the CP3 is to bypass air bubbles back to the tank - this works best when the internal lift pump is drawing fuel from the tank - it is capable of up to 20"HG vacuum on the filter and line - the fuel cap is vented for 1psi pressure as well as 2"HG vacuum, so the pre-filter line and tank is limited to that 2" - that slight vacuum reduces fuel surface tension, allowing aeration bubbles to escape - any pump located up on or near the engine uses vacuum to draw the fuel from the tank, so the microscopic bubbles coalesce into larger bubbles, which are then returned to the tank - the B.Eckams FASS and C.Eckams AIRDOG systems utilize those concepts to remove and return air (and excess fuel) back to the tank, where it is released into the filler tube, never to trouble Mankind again.................
#19
So engineers at the biggest diesel engine manufacturers know about a rather simple device that will remove "air" from diesel which will protect injection pumps, make more power, and better more efficient use of fuel, which they jump through hoops for the EPA to do.... And they can do it for probably $20 or so... but they choose not to. Interesting.
#20
Again, a small amount of vacuum in the fuel supply system works wonders, and costs nothing.........
EPA-mandated fuel system inspections are rather strict in meeting mfr spec vis a vis fuel cap ventilation.
EPA-mandated fuel system inspections are rather strict in meeting mfr spec vis a vis fuel cap ventilation.
#22
So engineers at the biggest diesel engine manufacturers know about a rather simple device that will remove "air" from diesel which will protect injection pumps, make more power, and better more efficient use of fuel, which they jump through hoops for the EPA to do.... And they can do it for probably $20 or so... but they choose not to. Interesting.
#23
And I read about the 1990 CAT bulletin about air in fuel. I think fuel systems have changed just a little bit since then.
And also the 2006 report about potential problems with EUI engines and their injectors due to air problems... but thats a Powerstroke problem. Not mine...
They talk about vacuum causing air issues. Well my pump is mounted as close to the tank as possible, while the intank one is obviously not going to be affected at all by this anomoly. But I run much higher pressures and the way my bypass regulator is setup I'm sure any minuscule amounts of air are sent back to the tank with my fuel return.
Like I said, I'm not buying it...
And also the 2006 report about potential problems with EUI engines and their injectors due to air problems... but thats a Powerstroke problem. Not mine...
They talk about vacuum causing air issues. Well my pump is mounted as close to the tank as possible, while the intank one is obviously not going to be affected at all by this anomoly. But I run much higher pressures and the way my bypass regulator is setup I'm sure any minuscule amounts of air are sent back to the tank with my fuel return.
Like I said, I'm not buying it...
#24
And I read about the 1990 CAT bulletin about air in fuel. I think fuel systems have changed just a little bit since then.
And also the 2006 report about potential problems with EUI engines and their injectors due to air problems... but thats a Powerstroke problem. Not mine...
They talk about vacuum causing air issues. Well my pump is mounted as close to the tank as possible, while the intank one is obviously not going to be affected at all by this anomoly. But I run much higher pressures and the way my bypass regulator is setup I'm sure any minuscule amounts of air are sent back to the tank with my fuel return.
Like I said, I'm not buying it...
And also the 2006 report about potential problems with EUI engines and their injectors due to air problems... but thats a Powerstroke problem. Not mine...
They talk about vacuum causing air issues. Well my pump is mounted as close to the tank as possible, while the intank one is obviously not going to be affected at all by this anomoly. But I run much higher pressures and the way my bypass regulator is setup I'm sure any minuscule amounts of air are sent back to the tank with my fuel return.
Like I said, I'm not buying it...
#25
So engineers at the biggest diesel engine manufacturers know about a rather simple device that will remove "air" from diesel which will protect injection pumps, make more power, and better more efficient use of fuel, which they jump through hoops for the EPA to do.... And they can do it for probably $20 or so... but they choose not to. Interesting.
#26
And I read about the 1990 CAT bulletin about air in fuel. I think fuel systems have changed just a little bit since then.
And also the 2006 report about potential problems with EUI engines and their injectors due to air problems... but thats a Powerstroke problem. Not mine...
They talk about vacuum causing air issues. Well my pump is mounted as close to the tank as possible, while the intank one is obviously not going to be affected at all by this anomoly. But I run much higher pressures and the way my bypass regulator is setup I'm sure any minuscule amounts of air are sent back to the tank with my fuel return.
Like I said, I'm not buying it...
And also the 2006 report about potential problems with EUI engines and their injectors due to air problems... but thats a Powerstroke problem. Not mine...
They talk about vacuum causing air issues. Well my pump is mounted as close to the tank as possible, while the intank one is obviously not going to be affected at all by this anomoly. But I run much higher pressures and the way my bypass regulator is setup I'm sure any minuscule amounts of air are sent back to the tank with my fuel return.
Like I said, I'm not buying it...
#28
Back then (and even today), it was widely believed that vacuum on a fuel tank would cause withered crops, stunted livestock, curdled cow's milk, and was even bad for the fuel pump - little did they know, eh? - now, your fuel cap must pass a strict vacuum\pressure test or you don't get the windshield sticker in states that comply with federal regulations (to get lucrative federal hiway funding) - that is the end result of the engineers responding to the problem - vacuum does alleviate aeration.
This isn't about 'buy a airdog or fass or you'll go blind' or 'don't use that walbro as it has known carcinogens in it' - it's just information that hopefully allows anyone to make an educated choice, rather than just submitting to peer pressure.
This isn't about 'buy a airdog or fass or you'll go blind' or 'don't use that walbro as it has known carcinogens in it' - it's just information that hopefully allows anyone to make an educated choice, rather than just submitting to peer pressure.
#29