I have a 2003 CTD SO 4x4 2500 QC 48RE truck. I want a little more power when towing and would like a little more fun when racing my cousin in his 2500 Ram Hemi .

I do tow a lot of weight (15,000 -20,000 lbs.) every now and again between TN and NC so I guess I will have to remove the box before the pull or would it be safe on level 1 or 2 as long as I keep my foot out of it?

I would like to know how safe adding this box is to my truck as far as the tranny is concerened when towing, what is the chance I will have enough to put the Hemi down (his truck is identical except for he has a hemi), and no one ever talks about Level 1 and 2, any reason why?

Thanks!

Eric

 

If you don't have guages. get them before you do the box. Your tranny should be fine with the EDGE box. It was designed with the HO in mind and there are lots of members with HO's running the EDGE with the 48RE. You main concern should be EGT's. You should install the boost elbow and an intake to help keep your EGT's down. I have towed about 8000 lbs on level 2 and was impressed by the difference in power. I can safely tow on level 3, so that is where I keep it.

 

Thanks! That is the kind of information I was looking for.

I forgot to mention that I was offered the edge attitude and juice in leu of the gauges. The monitor would keep everything in check.

How true is this and anyone else using this setup?

I would rather not get the gauges if I can help it. I don't like clutter in my cab and my wife doesn't like extra gauges.

Eric

 

As far as I know the Attitude/Juice is not available for 3rd Gens. The Attitude would be an excellent choice in lieu of guages. If you go with the EZ I would highly recommend a pyrometer. The SRT-10 single pillar is a really clean looking piece and easy to install. Good luck, Mike

 

Quote:I would rather not get the gauges if I can help it. I don't like clutter in my cab and my wife doesn't like extra gauges.

Eric
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Take a look at the X-Monitor, I have one and it does a good job and does not clutter up the interior.

Pics in my gallery.

 

I'm seriously considering the Edge EZ w/ the X-Monitor as well but have the same general concern about the tranny, although I'm pulling a hell of a lot less weight.

RankRam, I really like the painted look. How is the paint holding up? Did it match up well to the existing interior?

Karl

 

RankRam, I really like the painted look. How is the paint holding up? Did it match up well to the existing interior?

Karl

Yes the paint is fine, as far as matching it is one shade off. I hope that makes sense, The paint should be a perfect match. It's from Mopar but I can tell it's not a perfect match. FWIW, I'm very picky though.

The X works very well, couldn't be happier with my choice in guages.

Also I tow around 9k on some steep grades and the EZ is on level 4. The only time I need to back out of the throttle (EGT wise) is when pulling a 7% grade and then laying on the throttle to pick up speed to pass someone.

I tow at 65 to 70 mph out here in Nevada. Not alot of people where I usually go.

 

While it is always good, for diagnostics purposes, to have a boost gauge, it isn't totally necessary and a mild bomb such as the EZ could get by with just an EGT gauge. I know its heressy

I mention that because if the boss in the passenger seat doesn't like gauges and wants as stock as possible, consider the SRT-10 pillar and a single EGT gauge from diprocol. thats arguably the most stock look possible, and matches (close) the stock lighting -- white face with dark markings during the day, black face and lighted markings during the night.

Or, you can get a Westach dual EGT/boost gauge in a white face and put that in the SRT-10 pillar. At night it glows green with black markings.

 

Try painting the entire pillar as well as the xmoniter. There is nothing around the pillar the same color. The dash is below and the headliner above. The distance between the 2 pillars is enough that I, at least, cant notice the difference. I know one guy that painted both pillars before he was satisfied. Its a pretty good trick for getting a perfect pillar match.

 

Thanks for all the help. I believe I will start looking into how hard it is to install the EGT and Boost gauges with the pillar.

I have never fooled with turbo's and don't know how risky it is to remove it to drill for the thermocoupler.

I will do a search and see if I can find some install doc's to help me out. I get a little freeked out thinking about metal shavings getting loose.

Eric

 

Wiz...There is a lot of help here if you need it. Before I drilled, I loosened the 4 bolts that hold the turbo to the exhaust manifold. You will need long extensions to get the 2 inside bolts from the bottom. After the bolts are loose, you can slip a piece of cardboard in the gap to keep shavings from falling through. Blow it out, remove the cardboard and your done.

The SRT-10 pillar is the cleanest way to do the install if you are happy with one guage slot.

 

Wait for the Attitude/Juice combo. Forget the guages--too expensive for what you get and the co-pilot will not be happy. The Attitude is the way to go and should be out in a few months. Chevy guys are loving them in the Duramax. Looks trick and performs well.

GT

 

do not under any circumstances forget an EGT gauge. use the one (I understand will be) built into the Attitude if you want, thats a good way to combine fueling and the gauge. Maybe thats what you mean -- forget separate guage faces

This will still require drilling the manifold. If the Juice also provides a boost gauge, thats another bonus and won't require any mods -- I believe (someone correct) it will read directly from the MAP sensor that it already connects to.

 

I last spoke to an edge guy up at the BD dyno days and he told me that fuel pressure (gauge) was not in but might be added later. Im pointing this out because I and a couple other folks have pulled vacuum with nothing more than an EZ. Some seem to hold ok pressure which makes it appear that quality control varies widely on the stock lift pump. There is still not any substantial data on what, if any damage this may do to the cp3 over time. It has been shown on the dyno that when your fuel pressure hits zero, you stop making more power. While this seems obvious there was a lot of talk when the engine came out that the common rail didnt need pressure, only flow. This has been pretty well debunked. Not only does it cap your power, the engine will also miss and the egts skyrocket. Keep it at vacuum, as Pushrod can tell you, and the truck will stall. A fuel pressure gauge also gives you the advantage of being able to moniter the condition of your filter. Anyhow, something to think on.

 

great point re: fuel pressure. were they talking about high side (rail) pressure or low side (lift pump) pressure? Edge can easily measure high side (rail) pressure (by connecting to the fuel pressure port), but it would take a new sending unit and additional electrical design to build a low side pressure gauge. I hope they do, though. that would be great.

me, I'd like to see both low side and high side pressures!