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Old 04-19-2009 | 11:22 PM
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I put down 368HP.

No hot unlock. Only thing i did was mention to the dyno operator was my clutch may slip. So he dynoed it at a higher speed, 5th gear I think.

I should have rode shotgun with him and looked at my boost etc... I have had problems building a full 40psi and that may have happened when it was on there.

But I think I need to sell this juice and get a smarty
Old 04-20-2009 | 12:46 AM
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Stovetop,
Your 494 run looks like something slipped or defueled right at 494. Look at the torque curve and see how it makes a big dip then starts gaining again from 89 to 95 mph before falling off naturally like it should. You might have had a 500+ run going and then something happened ie: limited fuel from lift pump, drop in rail pressure, tire slippage/spin, TC or tranny slippage, ecm defueling?
Old 04-20-2009 | 01:00 AM
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that has to be due to the fuel pump. I dont know why to me a fuel pump makes such a big difference on top end. Without it my truck hesitates when floored, i cant believe he made 494 without one makes me jealous...
Old 04-20-2009 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by loafus
Wow I have the same truck with obviously different mods but came no where near those numbers.

I guess I need the smarty instead of the juice. Or is there something im missing here? lol.
Smarty really is THAT big of a difference. Seriously, take it from me. I jumped shipped from a Juice/Att and noticed a smoother running truck on LOW power levels. Now on higher power levels the difference is just sickening.

Power differences between transmissions is a moot point, they dyno'd your auto in lockup which is essentially the same as a manual transmission. The difference is pre-lock up street manners, on a dyno it's a pretty level playing field for all
Old 04-20-2009 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by JP-4.5
On the higher settings a stock engine can NOT take full advantage of it because the fuel and air supply from the stock parts are simply not enough.
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I took wyodsl's advice from my previous thread and loaded sw7 on revo tnt. My settings were....tm 4, it 0, rp 4, wg off, shift defuel stock.
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cwgtex, I read that too, and I still have not set my smarty back to the regular revo. I just turned down the settings for now since I do not have a lot of the recomended things listed.
What did you turn it down to? So for the TNT software, how high can you go with only basic mods like we have? And still keep it driveable and not risk breaking something?
Old 04-20-2009 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Blue24
Stovetop,
Your 494 run looks like something slipped or defueled right at 494. Look at the torque curve and see how it makes a big dip then starts gaining again from 89 to 95 mph before falling off naturally like it should. You might have had a 500+ run going and then something happened ie: limited fuel from lift pump, drop in rail pressure, tire slippage/spin, TC or tranny slippage, ecm defueling?
Its lack of fuel I was down there and saw it time and time again. With a lift pump he would have saw 500+ for sure theres no doubt in my mind.

We also compared crazy larry to TNT on an 07 truck with just a dual disk, lift pump, intake and exhaust.......im not trying to start another war (remember im the one who told stovetop what to run) but crazy larry won the TNT run was 503 and the crazy larry was 515 with 30lbs more torque with rail pressure never exceeding 23psi TNT rail was higher....so they are fairly similar tunes......however the bully dog didnt fall off at 3100rpm like the TNT did.

Also Osiris a member on here did 626hp with crazy larry, raptor pump, 50hp stixs, straight pipe, air intake, bladerunner and a garrett stage 3 with the stage 2 mod and water/meth

By the way guys these number are at over 5000ft elevation
Old 04-20-2009 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by loafus
I put down 368HP.

No hot unlock. Only thing i did was mention to the dyno operator was my clutch may slip. So he dynoed it at a higher speed, 5th gear I think.

I should have rode shotgun with him and looked at my boost etc... I have had problems building a full 40psi and that may have happened when it was on there.

But I think I need to sell this juice and get a smarty
Get the hot unlock and a fuel pump raptor, fass, airdog, eliminator any of them and you will be close to 500hp
Old 04-20-2009 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by cwgtex
What did you turn it down to? So for the TNT software, how high can you go with only basic mods like we have? And still keep it driveable and not risk breaking something?
I wouldnt recommend anything over lvl3 with a basically stock truck if you have a built auto or manual you can turn the torque management up but without lift pump and cp3 and or stixs i wouldnt go much abouve lvl2 for rail. timing is another story I would only timing rated for your application. any pother questions about smarty youll have to PM BOB WAGNER.
Old 04-20-2009 | 09:03 AM
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Wow, Osiris did good! That Garrett he has is only supposed to be good to 550 hp. I wonder what his EGTS were?
Old 04-20-2009 | 09:24 AM
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Wow, Osiris did good! That Garrett he has is only supposed to be good to 550 hp. I wonder what his EGTS were?
Dude your not going to believe me but egts were 1400,,,,,awesome

He was at about 600hp without the meth and egts were still around 1400-1450

Tom is going to be happy wouldnt you say.

Dude his stock run was like 345 or 355 at like 800-900 egt(without programming) I cant remember exactly I'll have to let him chime in cause I dont remember that number.
Old 04-20-2009 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by loafus
But I think I need to sell this juice and get a smarty
I wish you were closer. I would let you try it out.

Originally Posted by Big Blue24
Your 494 run looks like something slipped or defueled right at 494. Look at the torque curve and see how it makes a big dip then starts gaining again from 89 to 95 mph before falling off naturally like it should. You might have had a 500+ run going and then something happened ie: limited fuel from lift pump, drop in rail pressure, tire slippage/spin, TC or tranny slippage, ecm defueling?
Yeah I noticed that. Limited fuel would be my first guess. The runs were all pretty clean, so there is no doubt in my mind I was runnin out of fuel.
Old 04-20-2009 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by xtoyz17
they dyno'd your auto in lockup which is essentially the same as a manual transmission. The difference is pre-lock up street manners, on a dyno it's a pretty level playing field for all
Good to know. I was curious about that after seeing the different trucks run this weekend.

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What did you turn it down to? So for the TNT software, how high can you go with only basic mods like we have? And still keep it driveable and not risk breaking something?
I turned it down to sw5, tm3, and the timing and rail I left at either default or stock, cant remember right now.

It is hard to force yourself to turn the thing back down after you have felt the truck run with with the higher settings. For me, running sw5 on the street is very driveable. For me, sw7 with tm at 3, the throttle was a little touchy for my liking, but still very controllable. I would say just load it up, spend an afternoon trying out a few different combinations. Just dont get too crazy with your rail and timing settings.

Originally Posted by WYODSL
By the way guys, these numbers are at over 5000 ft elevation.
How much of a factor does elevation have in dyno numbers?
Old 04-20-2009 | 10:40 AM
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Elevation plays a huge roll in how much air a truck can suck in. Guys at sea level will get bigger numbers on the same truck and also run faster quarter times on same truck because the air is so thin at elevation. Thats why every now and then you'll see people with same mods saying "i never get over 1300degress egt with my truck...somethings wrong with yours" and so on because the majority of the people saying that are at sea level and dont comprehend how altitude adversly affects these situations. and in Laramie your at 7200ft. which is high by most definitions
Old 04-20-2009 | 01:11 PM
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Yeah I understand the less air part of it. But in reality how much power is that really robing somebody of on a dyno?
Old 04-20-2009 | 01:17 PM
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i dont know


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