does the mp8 really help out?
07-19-2007, 01:53 PM
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does the mp8 really help out?
I have an 06 and just curious if you guys have seen it help your rail pressure according to your gauge. I just wanted input if they have helped out on running the rail low and if they are worth the $. thanks in advance
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yes wap I have a smarty/tst stacked, turbo, stage 2 cp3. ive heard mixed things about them. guys say they are hard on injectors. others say no issues. mainly looking for something thats rail pressure only. I dont want much just a little to see if it helps. I have stock injectors and prefer not to destroy them.
07-19-2007, 04:30 PM
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I wish I could be more help but my rail guage is on the fritz right now and it is hard to watch the digital display of the tst guage vs analog.
I may never use my mp8 again but I aint gettin rid of it eather, if that helps any. If you can get one used and cheap I would do it, otherwise I would use that $ for injectors. JMO
I may never use my mp8 again but I aint gettin rid of it eather, if that helps any. If you can get one used and cheap I would do it, otherwise I would use that $ for injectors. JMO
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Pressure only
yes wap I have a smarty/tst stacked, turbo, stage 2 cp3. ive heard mixed things about them. guys say they are hard on injectors. others say no issues. mainly looking for something thats rail pressure only. I dont want much just a little to see if it helps. I have stock injectors and prefer not to destroy them.
Dr. P I believe is pressure only,... and a lot of it.
VA C3.1
Others I'm sure.
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I've had the EZ and the TS MP-8 both stacked with Smarty/TST combo. I like the MP-8 alot better. The MP-8 gives infinite adjustability, and seems like a lot more performance gain. I never really could "feel" the power added by the Edge EZ, although it did smooth things out alot.
However, under moderate/heavy throttle you can really feel another kick as you ramp up the MP-8. The only downfall that I've seen so far with the MP-8, is that you get higher pressures letting off the pedal than on the pedal.
For example, if you have the MP-8 set so that you see 25,000 psi WOT, it may spike to 27 or 28,000 when you let off. I've found that if you're coordinated enough, you can quickly turn the MP-8 down very low at the same time you're backing off the throttle, and the pressure doesn't spike...however, this is sometimes hard to do with everything else going on!
As far as reliability of injectors, I don't know. I've heard some say EZ is a light/moderate pressure box and doesn't harm injectors. And others have supposedly trashed injectors running EZ on 1. I don't know there, but the MP-8 does offer smooth, real power.
--Eric
However, under moderate/heavy throttle you can really feel another kick as you ramp up the MP-8. The only downfall that I've seen so far with the MP-8, is that you get higher pressures letting off the pedal than on the pedal.
For example, if you have the MP-8 set so that you see 25,000 psi WOT, it may spike to 27 or 28,000 when you let off. I've found that if you're coordinated enough, you can quickly turn the MP-8 down very low at the same time you're backing off the throttle, and the pressure doesn't spike...however, this is sometimes hard to do with everything else going on!
As far as reliability of injectors, I don't know. I've heard some say EZ is a light/moderate pressure box and doesn't harm injectors. And others have supposedly trashed injectors running EZ on 1. I don't know there, but the MP-8 does offer smooth, real power.
--Eric
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I've had the EZ and the TS MP-8 both stacked with Smarty/TST combo. I like the MP-8 alot better. The MP-8 gives infinite adjustability, and seems like a lot more performance gain. I never really could "feel" the power added by the Edge EZ, although it did smooth things out alot.
However, under moderate/heavy throttle you can really feel another kick as you ramp up the MP-8. The only downfall that I've seen so far with the MP-8, is that you get higher pressures letting off the pedal than on the pedal.
For example, if you have the MP-8 set so that you see 25,000 psi WOT, it may spike to 27 or 28,000 when you let off. I've found that if you're coordinated enough, you can quickly turn the MP-8 down very low at the same time you're backing off the throttle, and the pressure doesn't spike...however, this is sometimes hard to do with everything else going on!
As far as reliability of injectors, I don't know. I've heard some say EZ is a light/moderate pressure box and doesn't harm injectors. And others have supposedly trashed injectors running EZ on 1. I don't know there, but the MP-8 does offer smooth, real power.
--Eric
However, under moderate/heavy throttle you can really feel another kick as you ramp up the MP-8. The only downfall that I've seen so far with the MP-8, is that you get higher pressures letting off the pedal than on the pedal.
For example, if you have the MP-8 set so that you see 25,000 psi WOT, it may spike to 27 or 28,000 when you let off. I've found that if you're coordinated enough, you can quickly turn the MP-8 down very low at the same time you're backing off the throttle, and the pressure doesn't spike...however, this is sometimes hard to do with everything else going on!
As far as reliability of injectors, I don't know. I've heard some say EZ is a light/moderate pressure box and doesn't harm injectors. And others have supposedly trashed injectors running EZ on 1. I don't know there, but the MP-8 does offer smooth, real power.
--Eric
very good information right there. thanks for all that
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the EZ is not mild! Especially if you have an early one with the 4th hidden level, it can and will kill injectors! the mildest I have seen is the VA C3.1. The va fuels hard down low and tapers off, where the EZ fuels more in the upper ranges where the RP will be the highest.
I just put a MP-8 on mine and love the way it fuels down low (even lower than the VA IMHO). that is where I want the power, I don't want something that has to be at redline to make its power. at about 25% on the Mp-8 with my flux 2.5's it just hazes out the exhaust @ low rpm WOT. the smoke didn't clear up all the way to redline where it did with the VA.
in my truck the Va tst stack did 457/1002 whereas a similarly equipped truck with a EZ has higher Hp but lower torque.
I just put a MP-8 on mine and love the way it fuels down low (even lower than the VA IMHO). that is where I want the power, I don't want something that has to be at redline to make its power. at about 25% on the Mp-8 with my flux 2.5's it just hazes out the exhaust @ low rpm WOT. the smoke didn't clear up all the way to redline where it did with the VA.
in my truck the Va tst stack did 457/1002 whereas a similarly equipped truck with a EZ has higher Hp but lower torque.