ghost24

I have a triple dog right now and was told the ppe puts out 300 horse and 470 foot pounds to where as my crazy larry is only 180.. what do you guys think is better??????

Rpainter

the 300 hp is at the crank so at most you will see is 230 at the rear wheels. what year truck do you have and what mods have you had done

CrashCade

I would stick to Bully Dog, I am pretty sure you that you will be happier with the Bully Dog product. I think it just might have a little more in the programming than the PPE!

ghost24

04.5 lets see i have FASS 150, crazy larry, boost fooler, 5 in turbo back, about to have big line kit from fuel filter to cp3 along with intake mani and intake, isspro gauges, 6 in lift and 20 by 12 with nitto mud grapplers..... also would the southbend 3250 dual disc be two much clutch for me even if i ever get a phat shaft? Everyone i seem to call gives me different answers...

Speed Shift

I say get a Smarty.


Wether the 3250 will be too much depends on how you drive(sled pull, drag race?) and how much power you plan to make. Its always better to have too much clutch than not enough. What size turbo do you plan on getting when you say Phat Shaft?

ghost24

Smarty? don't know much about those. I don't really know turbo size yet i still have to get a clutch, intake manifold, intake, some sort of upgraded cp3 dual line kit and head studs... i want to have everything taken care of before i go big turbo. also i don't even really have a goal something that wont break all the time lol

PowerDually

I am running the PPE hot and am real hapy with it. I tried the BD scary larry and it was a good programmer but compared to the PPE I found the BD to be a little rough. THe PPE power delivery is pretty linear through the RPM's and smooth.

I pull my fver on the PPE performance setting and with the HTT super stocker I do not have EGT problems. With the BD without ever pulling with it I could see the EGT's climb a lot faster.

I would say PPE or smarty. I have never had a smarty but am thinking about buying one to try.

ghost24

OK as far as stacking, can anyone explain some of that in general? I was told that i wouldn't really need to stach with the crazy larry. i do agree it is alittle rough when the power comes in and my egt's never go over 1200 but i also don't have a intake or manifold yet...

Speed Shift

Do a search and you will find alot on the Smarty, I would be carefull adding all that fuel on the stock turbo, one spirt of no self control and you might get to buy a new motor as well. Do a search on dual feed lines as well, it might save you some money.

ghost24

i already have a dual line from the filter to cp3 on the way and was looking to buy the cp3 to rail line as well.. I am running 48 pounds do you think i will blow my motor, surely some other people are running hotter set ups then me?

Speed Shift

A dual line setup from the filter to the CP3? Or from the CP3 to the rail? Are you running 48lbs to the CP3?(thats a bit much for a stock CP3) If you run some heavy fueling software/boxes a modded CP3, and injectors with a stock turbo you will deffiniatley run some crazy EGTs if you let it, and yes that will melt the motor.

I would say do the clutch first, then some sort of programming(Smarty,Scary Larry, PPE, whatever..) then a turbo. After that you will have more power, and run waaaay safer EGTs than running 600hp of fuel on a turbo barley caplable of cooling 400hp.

tcr

Do more research on the Smarty, you will not be sorry. Forget about the dual line kit, I have it and...........well.......don't get it.

ghost24

the line kit goes from the fuel filter to the cp3. I was misslead on the fass system with the external filters thats why i am getting the line kit. I am running 48 psi not 48 pounds of fuel only 20-21 pounds of fuel....I think right now i am going to stick with my crazy larry, but now i am running into the problem of what clutch sb 3250 or the 3600??? I talked to a guy a southbend, he said i would need ladder bars because of my lift, and that i would get alot of chatter??????

ghost24

also my egts never go above 1200, but my friends 06 with all the same mods well he has an intake and a intake manifold, his has pegged out the gauge at 1500

cgmorgan06

Only 1200 on crazy larry? Is your egt probe located after the turbo? If so that could account for the low egt numbers.