bob4x4

The issue may boil down to Ghost Ram uses his truck when others are more into adding all the aftermarket parts and chatting on the internet
I have used many aftermarket upgrades and found them infrerior to oem during my type of use.I have also ended up finding some of the best products available.I will continue to experiment and give recomendations from my own findings so others can benefit.This maybe all Ghost Ram is doing,not Flaming.

Bob

nelrod

Reread your post. Telling him you did not have time to "discover fancy words to boost my ego, and reputation," I would consider that an insult and attack. That's it for me, sorry for your trouble and am glad now your problem is resolved.

Lary Ellis (Top)

If all he was trying to do was explain his findings, he would not be insulting the man on a personal basis or accusing me of treating Lazarsmith with special bias because he is a site sponsor. Lazarsmith is NOT a sponsor and the only thing I told ghost ram was to leave the personal stuff out of it.

Pretty clear now that he has an agenda that goes beyond just describing a problem or making a recommendation as you do Bob.

I don't mind a person discussing a product failure, site sponsor or not. I do care when they make it a personal attack rather than simply sticking to the facts.

Ghost Ram

ok, now you are saying i have some kind of agenda?

look, i only wanted to warn people about this product. then the finger was pointed at me by saying it was installer error. thats when i decided to continue the converstion. And im sorry but this guy does use awful fancy vocabulary for what he is trying to do. Its not an insult. If i was telling him he sounded like an illiterate 1st grader and couldnt spell or read, that would be an insult. if anything i complimented him as he has a much wider vocabulary than most of us do. It is just my opinion he uses his broad vocab to make his products sound like more than they really are and to be rather confusing and distracting.

why do you guys keep saying i am flaming Lazarsmith??? i honestly dont understand. I would refer to it as calling someone out for who they are, but it is definately not making fun of or flaming someone. there is a very clear difference between the two at least to me anyways.

XLR8R

Thanks for clearing things up, Randy.

Interesting that you chose to place both legal action AND physical confrontation on the table in the same breath.

I'll match my 30 years to your 30 minutes anytime.... huckleberry.

We're not a current sponsor of this site (though it's the first place our advertising $$$ go), so it's pointless to accuse DTR of protectionism.

You have all of the virtures I dislike and none of the vices I admire.

Ghost Ram

i will appologize to Larry, i assumed that you would shut this thread down because it points out a fault in one of its members products. I didnt know if Lazarsmith is a sponsor or not and i simply assumed it after somone else had said you would have something to say about this topic.

I dont frequent this foruim much at all, but i am very active on other forums and i see the mods cover things up all the time for other members who are friends or sponsors of the forum. after hereing someone say you would have something to say about this, i assumed this would be the case here too and made a statement that i shouldnt have made. For that i am sorry.

Ghost Ram

physical confrontation? you may want to go back and re-read what i said. as far as legal action goes, you gave me one of these because i "malign" your name. I believe you meant i was slandering you and i simply stated you should take legal action if you truly feel that way rather than giving me a . I dont play games and i dont make funny faces on the internet.

30 years to 30 minutes? i have no idea what you mean so please clarify, thanx

and i take huckleberry as an insult so now who is insulting who?

Totallyrad

it's time to put this to bed. Just for the sake of conversation, I've always been told never to put anything in type that you wouldn't want plastered on the front page of the paper so this will stay up for a while so everyone can make their own decision. One additional word of caution, as Lary told you and as we always have said, stay with the facts. If you lower yourselves to personal attacks and flaming you're out of here. Do not repost this or start another thread about it, either of you.

Lary Ellis (Top)

Apology accepted