Beta 4.2 with stock truck and built tranny?
06-23-2008, 12:33 PM
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Beta 4.2 with stock truck and built tranny?
Is it ok to run beta 4.2 on a stock truck with a built tranny or do you have to have fuel system, injectors and turbo. my buddy has been running it with only built clutch and fuel system, so im thinking about running it. I'll have my fuel system soon just wondering if it is ok to run 4.2 while waiting for fuel system, injectors and turbo.
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06-23-2008, 12:36 PM
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You should be fine. My truck shifted the best with the 4.2 for some reason. Until I got a ts shift master, then it didn't really matter.
I never ran 4.2 on a truck with stock inj's, pump, or turbo though.
I never ran 4.2 on a truck with stock inj's, pump, or turbo though.
06-23-2008, 12:40 PM
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I dont see gauges in your sig, so no way. 4.2 is a race program that gets really hot with a stock turbo, and with no fuel system you will drop fuel pressure as well.
06-23-2008, 05:22 PM
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You dont see built tranny in my sig either. Just because its not in the sig doesnt mean its not there. I ran it on level 5 the other day and egt's got to 1425-1450 pretty quick but it was also quick to 100mph
Does it raise rail pressure past 25000psi, i guess i just want to know if im gonna stick a tip or lose my pump before i upgrade them.
Does it raise rail pressure past 25000psi, i guess i just want to know if im gonna stick a tip or lose my pump before i upgrade them.
06-23-2008, 05:50 PM
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You dont see built tranny in my sig either. Just because its not in the sig doesnt mean its not there. I ran it on level 5 the other day and egt's got to 1425-1450 pretty quick but it was also quick to 100mph Does it raise rail pressure past 25000psi, i guess i just want to know if im gonna stick a tip or lose my pump before i upgrade them.
Does it raise rail pressure past 25000psi, i guess i just want to know if im gonna stick a tip or lose my pump before i upgrade them.
06-23-2008, 10:16 PM
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P.S. Bob I'll call again in the morning.
06-23-2008, 11:17 PM
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wow why do you even bother posting on here if you already know everything you need to? didnt you already talk to a business that told you what was right to buy so you did now your sending it back because it ran like crap and messed your truck up? weird how that works do your research next time and maybe listen to what people have to tell you instead of coming on here acting like you know everything when really you rely on disel power magazine to give you all the knowledge you need to know
06-23-2008, 11:49 PM
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The thing is, the sig stops alot of questioning. There is no reason to get your panties in a bunch because fellow members are trying to clarify what you DO and DON'T have. If you want advice or answers to your questions, you need to understand that we are in the dark until YOU shed the light.
As for your original question, IMo no it wouldn't be OK. You could use the program and have it work, but for its intended purpose, no. As stated before, the 4.2 throws alot of fuel at the engine, more fuel than your stock components can handle. Knowing the nature of many Cummins owners with a smarty and a beta program, you will not be using the program for mpgs. That is just my honest, respectful opinion.
Transmission work only patches up potential destruction if you don't have all the other necessities. At least a fuel pump and turbo. If you wanna dump more fuel, you need to pass more air...
As for your original question, IMo no it wouldn't be OK. You could use the program and have it work, but for its intended purpose, no. As stated before, the 4.2 throws alot of fuel at the engine, more fuel than your stock components can handle. Knowing the nature of many Cummins owners with a smarty and a beta program, you will not be using the program for mpgs. That is just my honest, respectful opinion.
Transmission work only patches up potential destruction if you don't have all the other necessities. At least a fuel pump and turbo. If you wanna dump more fuel, you need to pass more air...
06-24-2008, 11:38 AM
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[QUOTE=wyocat;2126210]wow why do you even bother posting on here if you already know everything you need to? didnt you already talk to a business that told you what was right to buy so you did now your sending it back because it ran like crap and messed your truck up? weird how that works do your research next time and maybe listen to what people have to tell you instead of coming on here acting like you know everything when really you rely on disel power magazine to give you all the knowledge you need to know[/QUOTE
This is coming from the guy who blew out third gear cause he cant shift. Buy a geo metro buddy maybe you can shift that. Or better yet have your mom drive your truck at the track. As far as Diesel power magazine is concerned, I'm not the one who has the subscription, you are. Im also not the one who bought bullydog then sold it to get smarty cause it messed up my truck, you are. Atleast i did my research and bought smarty jr first, and yeah it didn't run well on my truck and had some issues, so I bought what the majority of other people who don't use smarty on this forum use and that was edge, well guess what, it didn't work out and now I'm buying something else, thats why the question was asked about beta 4.2. Rip kinda answered that question I guess, and now that i have my panties out of a bunch, I guess I'll get a bigger turbo, fuel system and injectors so then finally I can wear boxers again and not be so snippy, I'll add that to my sig so you guys know how well my undergarments fit, and make sure their not running hot. And getting enough fuel.
This is coming from the guy who blew out third gear cause he cant shift. Buy a geo metro buddy maybe you can shift that. Or better yet have your mom drive your truck at the track. As far as Diesel power magazine is concerned, I'm not the one who has the subscription, you are. Im also not the one who bought bullydog then sold it to get smarty cause it messed up my truck, you are. Atleast i did my research and bought smarty jr first, and yeah it didn't run well on my truck and had some issues, so I bought what the majority of other people who don't use smarty on this forum use and that was edge, well guess what, it didn't work out and now I'm buying something else, thats why the question was asked about beta 4.2. Rip kinda answered that question I guess, and now that i have my panties out of a bunch, I guess I'll get a bigger turbo, fuel system and injectors so then finally I can wear boxers again and not be so snippy, I'll add that to my sig so you guys know how well my undergarments fit, and make sure their not running hot. And getting enough fuel.
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we live in the same town hangout almost everyday, it's just a joke.