Well thanks in advance for trying to give me some advice. I have a 2005 Truck. It is 100% stock. I do some towing and a lot of commuting. I wanted something that would help with MPG when I commute and something that I could switch to help when I toe. I don’t know much but I was guessing Cat back, Air Intake and a program might work? What I was wondering is if you guys could give me some Recommendations for good combo's? I won’t be hot ******* this truck I have a Trans Am for that. I want to maximize MPG for daily driving and I figured more power for towing my 36" camper would not hurt ether. SO what do you guys think? Anybody saw good results form certain combo's. BTW - I am betting 18mpg right now with 15000 miles on the truck.

Thanks again,
Arkangel77

 

This is what I did, and is only my opinion.

Air intake and exhaust are mainly for keeping EGT's down when they get hot. They get hot from either towing hard, running hard, or running a box. If you want millage i would go with the best bang for your buck. For chips if you want millage and all that, go with a 60hp area module. Like the Edge EZ, quad XZT, ect, those will give you a bump in power and torque, and should provide better millage numbers than the hotter chips. These are around 300 each

I would also go with an air intake. you can either get a replacement filter or whole kit, this will cost in the area of 250 depending on what you go with.

Your exhaust is 4 inch from turbo back, only restriction is muffler (cat somewhat but don't take it off) I would do a MBRP replacement muffler or any other muffler of your choice. If your not into looks or new pipe or this or that, do a muffler only, get rid of your restrictive system and 100lbs of useless steel. MBRP, magniflow, any of those, around 150 for just the muffler.

Last but not least is gauges. I went with Pyro (must) boost (good for watching psi, leaks, ect) and Tranny since I have an auto. I may go with a fuel pressure soon, but it's all under warrenty, so till then oh well. Gauges and pod around 300 bucks for everything. I went with the white face Dipocol and love them, great match and everything.

This should run your right around 1,000 unless your having somebody else install them. Then you'll have to pay a bit more. Most of this stuff is do it yourself if your mechanically inclined (or can change your oil without spilling most of it on the floor) Others will chime in, but that's my idea

Tom

 

I would take your muffler out first then go with like a quad xzt if you are wanting just a small HP gain and some fuel economy. They usually give a little economy gain and make it a little easier to tow your trailer. If you want more you can do either the van Aaken C3.2, or like a downloader which usually have good results. Pm me if you have any questions.

 

What these guys are saying it right on the money. But make sure you do guages. I just removed my X-Monitor (which will do your EGTs, Boost, and Trans) It has a cool engine shutdown too, which is something else I think all turbo charged vehicles need to keep from killing the turbo while NOT wasting time sitting in the truck idling.

 

Tone ring is good too if you know what your doing there. It's free or for 80 you can get the rocktech, but I did the tone ring.

 

The tone ring mod and Va C3.2 work very nice together. That would be a good option.

 

on a 2005 you already have a 4" exhaust. I would do an egt guage and a box or a all in one solution first.

if you want to go ecnomical I would do this.

quad xzt $299
egt guage and pod $150-180
so $450-480 total

I did this.

edge juice is around $650 it is the most economical all in one solution I have found and that is why I went with it. if you compare the 100hp quad box and gauges to the juice price it is a wash and you get defueling and other things out of the juice. Some poeple like the old mechanical gauges though in that case the juice would be kind of a waste.

no catback needed since you are already 4" . muffler only. I would see what the egt's are after the box and the power level.

if you need egt reduction or still want a bit more look into airbox or muffler mods. I see alot of people do these first and on a stock truck the gains are so minimal seems like money in the wrong place to me unless you have an egt gauge installed and need lower temps on your stock truck.

for example go to afe's site. on a stock 06 doge thier $300 intake give you 4hp and 8lbs of torque. not a sweet power mod for $300. then you have companies like quadzilla which I can't belive he does but post up number like up to 35hp in there adds. maybe on some twin turbo 600hp monster but on a stock truck. no f'ing way.

maybe someone can link in some good real world resuts to the air filter stuff but I would do it as need not mandatory. no with exhaust there is the sound factor. if you want it you have to change it.

 

Will these modificaions work on a 2006?

 

I assume you have an auto. Do a Valve Body. You tow and it will help you a bunch and make it shift nicely. Then I'd drill some large holes in your airbox to get more air to your engine,...cost is $0. Loose the cat and put on a MBRP or a Donaldson or some less restrictive exhaust. And you should have enough to put on a Holley Blue pump to keep your fuel pressure up. You don't need gauges for any of these things and they put you in a good position to go with a decent box for your next upgrade which can be found on E-bay or in our classified section for less $$$. By the time you go to the box you will then need the gauges.

 

Not sure there any modules out for the 06 yet. selection would definatly be limited at this point. the exhuast and air box might be the same.

 

The Edge EZ works on an 06, so does the BDDL and I think the TST. Also Superchips was supposed to have something out.

 

Ark, If you are a responsible person ... do it right the first time. Get a TST and FASS package (from TST) with the gauges and don't run over 4/4, put on a Nelson straight through 4" x 27" muffler (exhaust is done, use stock pipe and get a 6 inch tip for your birthday) Add a BHAF. You are done and can get close to 400hp at the rear wheels. ks

 

Newbie here on the Cummins..........without sounding like too much of an idiot, what exactly are the mods you just refered to?

 

yeah, what is a tone ring.
I can tell you that an edge Juice does absolutely NOTHING for fuel mileage on any setting but it is neat having the extra power at the push of a button.
DAVE

 

SSMinnow,

You don't sound like "an idiot", at all. None of us were "born" knowing this information. These websites are here for learning how to do it "right, the first time".
Like WileyC, I have the VA-C3.2 & the Tone Ring Mod on my '03, HO, 6-sp, also.
The "VA-C3.2" is a Van Aaken C-3.2, duration-only box that has three settings. Stock, 65 HP & 130 HP (all rear wheel HP, per Van Aaken). The duration-only box works by stretching out the time, or duration, that the injector stays open, thereby allowing more fuel to enter the combustion chamber, & making more power. (I chose the VA-C3.2 because I was afraid of the higher pressure boxes & the damage I've heard they, possibly, can cause. The VA-C3.2 adds NO pressure. Seemed like a SAFER box, to me.)

The Tone Ring Mod basically, adds more timing & gives you a small bit more power & a bit better fuel economy. It seems to work well with the VA-C3.2. Some of the more sophisticated boxes offer combinations of timing, duration & pressure.
If you are "mechanical" enough to do oil changes & rotate tires, you can probably do the TR mod. Superduty had a good explanation of how to do it. That's where I learned & I am, certainly, no mechanic!!!

You pull off the lower, crankshaft pulley & the TR is right behind it. Looks like a circular saw blade with carbide tips, on it. There is an "alignment hole" for the alignment pin to go into & you grind or file about 1/16" off the counter clockwise side of the hole, which, allows the TR to rotate clockwise, slightly, when you reinstall both it & the crankshaft pulley. I believe it's supposed to advance the timing about 2 deg's.

One of the things some of us consider is the ability to put the truck "back to stock" in the event that it needs to go to the dealer for warranty repairs. I tried to do mods to my truck that were reversible. About the only thing that isn't is the muffler. And that isn't an issue with the dealers in my area.

In the tests I've done, I have found that the aftermarket air intake system I have, didn't do much, at all, for performance when considering how much it cost. For the amount of power I have, I think "swiss-cheesing" the air box would have provided the same amount of benefit and all you have to do is drill a couple of holes in the bottom of the box. I think the intake systems come into play when you are producing "radical power".

However, the muffler & probably the air intake system, do help lower EGT's.

Hope this helps.

Joe F.(Buffalo)