Banks 6 Gun
06-19-2005, 05:51 AM
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Banks 6 Gun
Hey guys,
Look I'm about to put a chip in my 03 dodge cumm. and I don't know which one to get. I want to be able to pull and drag with some powerjokes and d-max's without any clutch slippage.
My research tells me the Banks 6 gun is the best but I can't say that without trying. Please give me your opinion.
Look I'm about to put a chip in my 03 dodge cumm. and I don't know which one to get. I want to be able to pull and drag with some powerjokes and d-max's without any clutch slippage.
My research tells me the Banks 6 gun is the best but I can't say that without trying. Please give me your opinion.
06-19-2005, 08:51 AM
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Xix-gun bundle
I had The six-gun bundle installed several months ago. They told me it was a neet clean installation and all works very well. I don't do any kind of abnormal stunts with my truck but, I do like to have the various settings when I'm pulling our 5th.
There support and research really pays off.
Hope you enjoy yours as much as I do mine
There support and research really pays off.
Hope you enjoy yours as much as I do mine
06-19-2005, 10:22 AM
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get something cheaper. not many people here like banks. i would get a bullydog crazy larry or an edge juice. They are both good proven products and will easily let you run with strokes and maxes
06-19-2005, 08:10 PM
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Since you have an 03 the edge juice is not an option (not out yet) - timing/duration box
Banks is really pricey for what you get (Like most of their products). - pressure/timing
TST is the top performer but you have to be smart with it - also, does not use pressure so won't hurt the injectors - timing/duaration
Xzillarader, Ts Ramifier, Bully Dog downloader - these are also popular. They mainly use pressure as the means for power increase. The Xzillaraider and TS Ramifier seem to keep EGT's under control fairly well.
Research before you buy. You want good EGT performance, Adjustability and reliabilty.
Banks is really pricey for what you get (Like most of their products). - pressure/timing
TST is the top performer but you have to be smart with it - also, does not use pressure so won't hurt the injectors - timing/duaration
Xzillarader, Ts Ramifier, Bully Dog downloader - these are also popular. They mainly use pressure as the means for power increase. The Xzillaraider and TS Ramifier seem to keep EGT's under control fairly well.
Research before you buy. You want good EGT performance, Adjustability and reliabilty.
06-20-2005, 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by deere nut
Xzillarader, Ts Ramifier, Bully Dog downloader - these are also popular. They mainly use pressure as the means for power increase. The Xzillaraider and TS Ramifier seem to keep EGT's under control fairly well.
Xzillarader, Ts Ramifier, Bully Dog downloader - these are also popular. They mainly use pressure as the means for power increase. The Xzillaraider and TS Ramifier seem to keep EGT's under control fairly well.
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06-20-2005, 03:54 PM
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What are you looking at for cost difference?
When I installed in late '03 I would of had to stack boxes to get the pressure and timing. So the amount was a difference of installation cost. Then you added in cold engine check, tranny slip, etc. etc it was worth it for me.
When I installed in late '03 I would of had to stack boxes to get the pressure and timing. So the amount was a difference of installation cost. Then you added in cold engine check, tranny slip, etc. etc it was worth it for me.
06-20-2005, 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by sguidry
My understanding is its works well for the money. What I'm asking is, does it make a difference that will justify the price?
My understanding is its works well for the money. What I'm asking is, does it make a difference that will justify the price?
I saw it for $673 with speedloader here ($584 w/o S.L'er): http://www.xtremediesel.com/index.as...PROD&ProdID=81
AND found it can do 87hp (peak to peak with speedloader, 57hp w/o S.L'er) on a 305hp engine from here:http://bankspower.com/Test_Results_AD07-305.cfm
Thats dismal, IMO, not when you get a TST for about $100 more (with gauges & EGT backdown) that will walk ALL OVER a banks 6-gun w/ loader, and with NO PRESSURE!
Heck, buy a Quad box for $299, and get 65hp (only 22hp down) - and pocket the other $373
I think there are quite a few other better options, IMO if you REALLY need the trans slippage thingy, wait for the EDGE JUICE, My beta unit ships later this week (I hope)
06-20-2005, 07:21 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tomeygun
[B]Too much $$$ for the HP I think, keep in mind the advertised gains are made with a CA SO engine with exhaust already done
AND found it can do 87hp (peak to peak with speedloader, 57hp w/o S.L'er) on a 305hp engine from here:http://bankspower.com/Test_Results_AD07-305.cfm
Tomeygun - good point about the Banks advertising. They lure people in with the 125 HP claim (wiht speedloader) but fail to make sure you know that it is based on the weak S.O. engine.
[B]Too much $$$ for the HP I think, keep in mind the advertised gains are made with a CA SO engine with exhaust already done
AND found it can do 87hp (peak to peak with speedloader, 57hp w/o S.L'er) on a 305hp engine from here:http://bankspower.com/Test_Results_AD07-305.cfm
Tomeygun - good point about the Banks advertising. They lure people in with the 125 HP claim (wiht speedloader) but fail to make sure you know that it is based on the weak S.O. engine.
06-20-2005, 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by deere nut
Tomeygun - good point about the Banks advertising. They lure people in with the 125 HP claim (wiht speedloader) but fail to make sure you know that it is based on the weak S.O. engine. [/B]
Tomeygun - good point about the Banks advertising. They lure people in with the 125 HP claim (wiht speedloader) but fail to make sure you know that it is based on the weak S.O. engine. [/B]
IMO, A little misleading, one, that its a SO engine (proven to post bigger gains) - and TWO,
that the 125hp gain is best gain through-out the power band (not peak-to-peak like most manufacturers)
So I buy a 6-gun w/ S.L'er, expecting a 125hp gain, and get 87hp on the local DYNO, yuck!
06-20-2005, 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by deere nut
TST is the top performer but you have to be smart with it - also, does not use pressure so won't hurt the injectors - timing/duaration
TST is the top performer but you have to be smart with it - also, does not use pressure so won't hurt the injectors - timing/duaration
