ppsi

I think it is reasonable to, at this point, be able to purchase an aftermarket item ("Box") that will allow cooler egt's. My truck cannot run a combo Edge EZ on #3 and VA duration on #2 w/o pinning my Pyrometer on 1400 degrees in a matter of seconds and I refuse to take the blame for this. It is all the fault of the aftermarket and I think they owe us a "unit"

nickleinonen

free up the restriction in the exhaust at the turbine housing and the egt will drop... [ie, bigger turbo]

ppsi

This is my point! Where is the turbo market. Everyone I hear from says there are turbos here or there and they are modded up existing units etc. I wouldn't trust them. Give me a bad turbo I can bolt on and be rid of the EGT problem. Is this too much to ask? (stating the obvious)

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doug

Well, since the after market performance scene is a free capitalist market and not a socialist entitlement program, what you see is driven by profit, not necessarily what is best for you. sometimes those two things correlate well, sometimes they don't. thats why they put those disclaimer pages in your fueling box shipping container which you are supposed to read

not all of the fueling box companies are fully vertically integrated, meaning that not all have complete solutions. They're out to make money and so they advertise and sell their products. Some are small companies and only produce electronics, some are in the turbocharger business and happen to sell electronics, some are dealers that try to pick from the best and offer a complete multi-vendor solution.

Just because you mate up an EZ and a C3.2 doesn't mean anyone owes the world a workable air systems for that combination. thats enough fueling to max out the fuel system iteslf. Many are working on turbochargers; indeed, it takes a lot of experience and know-how to make one, and I expect that is why the fueling box market is leading the turbocharger market.

that said, there are some folks with solutions. Piers would be a good place for you to start. Diesel Dynamics also has a complete turbocharger, intake, and exhaust system. I expect to see more solutions in the future and I've probably missed one or two already.

cquestad

I would like to know how the "Bomber Lite" would do from Piers with the EZ/C3.2 stack...if it would work on say 3/1 I would get it. If not, I guess it would be time to shell out 1500 smackers for the whole deal. Then we could use 4/2...

Gypsyman

Is the modded Piers unit the only one that will work with the stock elbow? Can't lose me exhaust brake as I tow all the time!

ppsi

Doug - my initital remarks (and actually most of what I post) had a good bit of sarcasm in it. I fully realize we all make our beds and mine was made know EGTs would be a problem as well as fuel. I solved the fueling prob-w-an inexpensive pusher setup. One thing that I wonder about is the timing manipulation. It seems this is what is missing form the stacked combo that I and others have. I suppose a lrger turbo would also get some attention but an affordable one that bolts right up-w-no mods would be ideal of course.
I have to look at the intake from DD. My exhaust is all set and I have seen the Banks intake which I have not read a lot of good things about.

doug

understood, ppsi. you are right that timing is a glaring omission from the pressure/duration stack. I do rather like the fueling curve provided by the VA duration box stacked with a pressure box. especially when both boxes are on their mild settings.

In the affordable turbo department, Piers is the one that comes to mind. they sell both Edge and VA, so they should be able to say if their new G1 would work for that stack. my guess is no, as the last I visited with them, they recommended the wastegated B1 bolt-on.

What the C3.2 crowd needs is a pressure/timing box. the interesting thing is that nobody is doing radical timing without setting an occasional code. TST still sees 'em once in a while, and Edge isn't out yet.

If you go with the DD system, their jammer turbo requires their intake system, but it all works well together.

ppsi

I looked at the DD site and saw the turbo (too pricey right now) but did not see an intake?

doug

The jammer is not a bolt-on replacement turbo, in the sense that the stock airbox will not fit -- it doesn't. the intake geometries are different, so any intake system designed to fit the stock turbo (airraid, PG-7, others) will not bolt up to the Jammer.

DD had some geometry issues to deal with and ended up not trying to match the factory geomety. So they developed their own intake system. I don't know how they are pricing it (may be included in with the jammer for all I know), but there is only one intake system that will fit the jammer turbo, and that is theirs.

nickleinonen

the b1 turbo is avalable as a direct bolt in for the 3rd gen... i think it is under the b-1-2 trim