runamuk

RamWheelsBy4,

That dyno you did with the quad box comes out nearly identical to my track times vs.weight calculator= 386hp, even with my poor reaction times and 5lb boost launch.

I've never dyno'ed my truck with the quad box on. I dyno'ed mine stock except intake and exhaust and my truck did 254 rwhp.

Rick

973604x4

for all yall stacking the Smarty, thats great....but my truck isn't to that level yet. I have a stock turbo, injectors, etc.

I ran the Smarty on level 7 and its not that fast to me. Crazy Larry is much faster, especially with my Quad boost fooler.

with the Smarty on 5, i think its comparable to a Bullydog on Performance...no joke. Smarty on 7 is like a Bullydog on Extreme.....i wasn't impressed. the Smarty's drive-ability is horrible...touchy throttle, lack of midrange....at half throttle it acclerates well but when i floored it from half throttle, nothing else was there. this occured around 45mph....trailer and no trailer.

I towed (4k) with the smarty on 2....EGT's were OK unless i needed to get on it going up hill...then it was a nightmare.

I would MUCH rather drive a bullydog crazy larry/quadzilla boost fooler anyday than a Smarty....for my truck in its current mod level.

OT-OF-Here

That's great data you guys have posted. Good job.

Bob Wagner

what does the "quad boost fooler" do? I cant find any info on the quad. it must do more than just clip the boost signal or the product would have a limited market .


973604X4 how much did the quad cost you ?

Thanks

973604x4

as we know, the bullydog doesn't do boost fooling. The Quadzilla Boost Fooler does nothing but boost fooling...which makes a great combo IMO. 45psi of boost with the CL program works very, very well with quick spool up.

I'm a beta tester for this unit....its not in production YET. Quad said very soon. quad yell at me if you need to but it retail prices at $79.99.....so lets say if i didn't have wholesale access to Bullydog stuff, a triple dog would cost me $550 on average plus this $79.99 Quadzilla piece. That's $629.99....still shy of the Smarty's price. Plus i would have adjustability on the fly and control other things like auto locks, horn chirps, etc

Bob i know you are a fan of the Smarty and all, I am NOT calling out anyone saying the Smarty doesn't perform the way they say it does. I know how it performed for me on my truck...and my truck isn't modded like most of the guys running smartys...which is the performance difference.

Bob Wagner

so bullydog will set a CEL for overboost and defuel at factory settings

really?

I've never heard that complaint before. interesting

973604x4

what? I'm lost. where was CEL and defueling mentioned? what complaint are you referring to?

All i was and am trying to do is give my opinion that the Smarty isn't the greatest thing ever....even though it may advertise X hp, i didn't find it as appealing as the same X hp rated from another company.

Bob Wagner

If the BDDL does NOT do boost fooling then you should get an over boost code and a (cel) check engine light right?

and if you cel a condition like that the engine will defuel

no?

Bob Wagner

what benefit would a smarty user get? there must be something more to the product than you are telling us

973604x4

No actually. Quad designed his Boost Fooler so that it doesn't throw any codes at all....so the BDDL doesn't know whats happening effectively....so Crazy Larry provides the fuel, the Quad boost fooler provides quick spool up and more boost on the top end, and its a great combo IMO for a stock turbo truck.

I don't even know if the bullydog will defuel at all if it doesn't come with the Outlook monitor...i thought the Outlook controlled defueling settings. ????

973604x4

What??? I vote no smarty, BDDL/Quadzilla boost fooler for a stock turbo.

Can the Smarty do boost fooling? IF it can't, the Quadzilla boost should be a great item for the Smarty as well.

Bob Wagner

you come off as an expert in your posts. I was just seeing how much you actually knew.

cheers

Bob Wagner

smarty does boost fooling. YES it does

973604x4

I'm only a college student with a passion for diesels. I've been "studying" diesels in online forums for 4 years now...and more recently have become more involved getting to test a Smarty (from James in Midlothian) and also getting to beta test the Quadzilla Boost Fooler....Edge wanted me to beta test the newest A2 software back in June as well but i turned that down. I simply love our sport. IF Texas A&M had Diesel Technology as a major, you can bet i would be majoring in it.

OT-OF-Here

If anyone wants to know how the SMARTY performs, then ask those who are running it and testing it in different stacks. A number of members I talk to are quite happy with it's performance, as am I. It stacks beautifully. This isn't to say other products don't run or stack nicely, but it appears the SMARTY is under fire here for some reason.