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Old 08-09-2004, 11:05 PM
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Finally.

This kit is 1/2" from the pusher pump to the injector pump.
It can be used with a Holley red, blue or black as well as any other pump.
I am fabricating a bracket that fits the tie down hole on the frame.
Its an oval plug with a bolt on it. Similar to what some folks are doing with a bolt and washers.

There will be three kits.

One will be the max flow lines, metric adapter and the aeroquip press on 1/2" fittings with the machined aluminum adpater to replace the factory pump. I attached a pic.

I have my prototype adapters at three machine shops to get quotes on them. Once I have this done, there will be pricing at

www.scottyairsystems.com


The kits and the Scotty Air Systems will also be available through a dealer network that will be on the Scotty site very soon.

Also, these products will be in the DTR online store!

The fuel hose I am using is the very best rubber Aeroquip hose.
This hose is actually more money then the braided teflon hose used in the 2nd gen kit. Plus it does not puncture your hand.

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The other kit will include the fuel pressure line for a fuel pressure gauge.
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Here is a picture of both kits with the pump adapter.

I hope to have a final aftermarket pump bracket priced by the end of the week.

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Re: 3rd gen Max Flow

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.....with the machined aluminum adapter to replace the factory pump......
Talk about timing. Certainly you have read the ongoing thread about our dilemma with keeping the stock filter w/heater. It looks like it will, but just to clarify: This is intended to let us use the pump of our choice with the stock fuel filter housing?
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Re: Re: 3rd gen Max Flow

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It looks like it will, but just to clarify: This is intended to let us use the pump of our choice with the stock fuel filter housing?
Yes I was following that thread and I was impressed to read that others have pursued a way to mount a pump without drilling the frame. After testing a few Carters and the Holley, I am going with the Holley Blue again.

Yes it will allow one to use the factory filter housing/heater.

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Re: Re: Re: 3rd gen Max Flow

Originally posted by Scotty
Yes I was following that thread and I was impressed to read that others have pursued a way to mount a pump without drilling the frame. After testing a few Carters and the Holley, I am going with the Holley Blue again.

Yes it will allow one to use the factory filter housing/heater.

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Scotty,
Does this adapter replace the stock lift pump on the filter housing?

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Re: Re: Re: Re: 3rd gen Max Flow

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Does this adapter replace the stock lift pump on the filter housing?
Yes it does

While Scott is testing with the Holley Blue pump, I'll be running PE's new 4300 (in September, when they're released).

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Sweet! Can I buy the first one?
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Scotty,

Do you have a lead time on the stock pump eliminator fitting? Also, what do you consider safe fuel pressures to feed the CP-3? Would 16 to 18 be too much over the long run?

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I should have quotes from the machine shops on Monday.

The Holley Blue [I prefer this pump] will run about 13 psi.
As far as I can tell, high pressure is not as important as constant volume. After some miles are logged I may have a different view...its strange how the Carters that are out there as pushers work real well and then start spiking the pressures after some power/demand is thrown at them.
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Allow me to ask the dumb question since I'm so good at it.

Is this setup supposed to replace the factory life pump/filter and go straight to the CP3, or is it just going to supply fuel to the factory lift pump?
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It will replace the factory lift pump only, and keep the factory fuel filter canister with the fuel heaters for us northern boys who need it.

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Originally posted by Scotty
I should have quotes from the machine shops on Monday.

The Holley Blue [I prefer this pump] will run about 13 psi.
As far as I can tell, high pressure is not as important as constant volume. After some miles are logged I may have a different view...its strange how the Carters that are out there as pushers work real well and then start spiking the pressures after some power/demand is thrown at them.
I've been looking at the Carter P4601HP, 100gph and 18 psi. What model Carters have you guys tried? I don't want to waste my time if I'm looking at something already proven not to work.

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Originally posted by Gypsyman
I've been looking at the Carter P4600HP, 100gph and 18 psi. What model Carters have you guys tried?
I've currently got a 4601 on my 03. It appears as though I have a different model than the HP, as my idle pressure used to be 14 PSI, versus 18 PSI. I haven't been overly happy with the fuel delivery rates (at 425HP, I'm dropping 10 PSI at WOT) and it is slowly beginning to drop idle pressure now. It may be the -6 AN lines that I'm using though. Once our bracket is done, and I'm running the PE4300 test pump, I'm going to tear into this Carter and see whats giving out (bypass, rotor or motor?).

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Thanks for the quick reply Rod. Do you happen to have a link or site that shows the PE pumps? I haven't had much luck finding them on the net.

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