Originally Posted by ah64id

Yes I did, they are both Baldwin filter bases, FB1311. The GDP kit comes with a Fleetguard base, but since I had the baldwin's I ordered the GDP kit without the base or Fleetguard filter.

As you get finer in filters, like all these 2 mics and some 5 mics, the filters are not designed for it. They don't even have a drain. The super fine filters are designed to go downstream from the fuel/water sep, as the last defense to clean the fuel prior to pressurization and injection. The best F/W sep I have seen (available) is the Baldwin PF7977 5 micron absolute, 1-2 nominal, 97-99% free water removal, 92-95% emulsified water removal, and 25.5 grams dirt holding.




Yeah, Cat doesn't fool around with anything.



It won't be covered IF they prove it was filter related. I thought I had read every fuel filter TSB and have never seen a Baldwin statement, unlike Fram for Oil.

Baldwin does use a multi-pass rating on their fuel filters thou. So there "2" micron BF7633 is actually a 5 micron multi-pass and 7 micron single pass.... But the PF7977 is 99.24% at 5 microns, and the fuel/water sep is very similar to the OE filter (OE is 98% free and 95% emulsified)

ANY vehicle/engine manufacturer has that statement. They want you to buy there filters. If a filter fails that is not Cummins fault, even if it was Fleetguard (yes I know same parent company). But Fleetguard should pay for damages, or Wix should pay, or Baldwin, or Amsoil, etc...



Actually 7 microns is the current requirement from DC. (and thats 7 microns absolute, not the 7 microns nominal WIX is selling.) FS19800E is 98.7 at 7 microns, and 96% at 5 microns.


I currently have 2 Balwin's inline even if they have multipass ratings (the BF1212 is actually 97.88% at 20 microns singlepass, so plenty for an initial gravel trap and F/W sep. When my supply of PF7977's runs out, 75K from now, I will reevaluate, but for now I KNOW I have cleaner, drier fuel than anyone using the OEM DIF.

Originally Posted by whitebuffalo

what size/type/where did you get the fuel line you used to plumb that in?

Originally Posted by whitebuffalo

what size/type/where did you get the fuel line you used to plumb that in?

Originally Posted by tritont

If I could find the TSB from Cummins I'd post it. It specifically stated in bold, that using Baldwin filter will void the warranty. They may filter just fine but, when it comes to replacing thousands of dollars of parts... they will pull out the fine print on you and have cause to deny it.

Originally Posted by tritont

I'm not going to argue with you about it. It's not a concern for me but, those that have a warranty and are concerned about keeping it should look into what I said.

If I could find the TSB from Cummins I'd post it. It specifically stated in bold, that using Baldwin filter will void the warranty. They may filter just fine but, when it comes to replacing thousands of dollars of parts... they will pull out the fine print on you and have cause to deny it.

Originally Posted by tritont

I'm not going to argue with you about it. It's not a concern for me but, those that have a warranty and are concerned about keeping it should look into what I said.

If I could find the TSB from Cummins I'd post it. It specifically stated in bold, that using Baldwin filter will void the warranty. They may filter just fine but, when it comes to replacing thousands of dollars of parts... they will pull out the fine print on you and have cause to deny it.