I am experiencing the light throttle stumble that I have heard seems like everyone complain about. I went to the dealer because I heard there is a computer re-flash out for this. I went there, they looked at it (I guess) there were no extra miles on it, then they said they hadn't heard of the re-flash yet. One guy is a moron and told me it is just because it is new and not broken in, I told him I've been around diesels forever and never have seen this, I told him he is wrong, then he got irritated and went away. Does anyone know if there is really a re-flash for this or not? It's starting to drive me nuts. Wishing I would've went with the 5.9 now.

 

Did you see this?

https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...d.php?t=159330

Next time you see that idiot at the dealer and he trys to talk to you, tell him he needs to go back and finish cleaning the toilets.

 

HERE IS THE TSB! YES IT IS REAL! PRINT AND TAKE TO THE JANITOR AT THE DEALER!


This bulletin is supplied as technical information only and is not an authorization for repair. No part of this publication may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system,
or transmitted, in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, or otherwise, without written permission of DaimlerChrysler Corporation.
THE StarSCAN® FLASH FILES FOR THIS BULLETIN MUST BE RETRIEVED FROM
THE INTERNET.
THIS BULLETIN SUPERSEDES TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN 18-033-07 REV. A,
DATED JUNE 12, 2007, WHICH SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM YOUR FILES. THIS IS
A COMPLETE REVISION AND NO ASTERISKS HAVE BEEN USED TO HIGHLIGHT
REVISIONS.
SUBJECT:
Ram Truck 2500 & 3500 - Excessive Soot Accumulation In Exhaust, PCM May Not
Reprogram, OBD Readiness Status And Other Engine System Enhancements
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves selectively erasing and reprogramming the Powertrain Control
Module (PCM) with “bootloader” software and application software.
CAUTION: A special “bootloader” software with special reprogramming (flash)
procedures must be installed in the PCM before the application software.
Once the “bootloader” software has been successfully installed (flashed)
in the PCM, then the application software can be reprogrammed (flashed)
into the PCM.
MODELS:
2007 (DH/D1) Ram Truck (2500 & 3500)
NOTE: This bulletin applies to Ram Truck 2500 & 3500 vehicles equipped with 6.7L
Cummins turbo-diesel engine (sales code ETJ) built on or before June 11,
2007 (MDH 0611XX).
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
The vehicle operator and/or technician may experience one or more of the following
conditions and/or enhancements:
1. The technician may not be able to reprogram (flash) the PCM with new
application software.
NUMBER: 18-033-07 REV. B
GROUP: Vehicle Performance
DATE: June 28, 2007
2. The vehicle may fail an Emission Inspection Maintenance (I/M) Test because two or
more On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) monitors report that they are not ready for testing.
This condition may cause the customer vehicle to not pass an Emissions I/M test. The
following is a list of OBD Monitors that may report as not ready for testing:
a. Non-Methane Hydrocarbon (NMHC) Catalyst Monitor.
b. Nitrogen Oxide (NOx) Absorber Monitor.
c. Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor Monitor.
d. Electrical Charging System Monitor.
e. EGR System Monitor.
f. Oxygen Sensor Monitor.
3. After extensive idling of the vehicle engine or if an intake air leak is present, the
vehicle operator may experience a MIL illumination and/or an Electronic Vehicle
Information Center (EVIC) message alert due to one or more of the following DTC's:
a. P1451 - Diesel Particulate Filter System Performance.
b. P2463 - Diesel Particulate Filter - Soot Accumulation.
c. P242F - Diesel Particulate Filter Restriction - Ash Accumulation.
4. The vehicle operator may experience a MIL illumination due to one of the following
DTC's:
a. P0106 - Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Performance.
b. P242B - Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor Circuit Performance - Bank 1 Sensor 3.
c. P245A - EGR Cooler Bypass Control Circuit - Open.
5. An intermittent rough engine idle and/or white smoke following initial engine start.
6. A throttle tip-in stumble at engine speeds of 1,300 to 2,100 rpm.
7. An engine hesitation at altitude of 5,000 feet between engine speeds of 1,200 to 1,600
rpm.
8. A turbocharger “chuff-like” sound during rapid deceleration.
DIAGNOSIS:
1. Connect the StarSCAN® to the vehicle Diagnostic Link Connector (DLC).
2. From the “Home” menu, select:
a. “ECU View”.
b. “PCM Powertrain Control Module”.
c. “View DTC's”.
3. Record DTC's that are present in the PCM.
4. Is DTC P242F present?
a. If YES >>> then STOP. Contact STAR for additional technical assistance.
b. If NO >>> then proceed to the next step.
5. Are either (or both) DTC P1451 or P2463 present?
a. If YES >>> then Section C - Exhaust System Aftertreatment Regeneration must be
performed AFTER Sections A and B (reprogramming the PCM for bootloader and
application software) of the Repair Procedure have been completed. Read the
following Cautions and Notes, then proceed to Section A of the Repair Procedure.
b. If NO >>> then Section C - Exhaust System Aftertreatment Regeneration should
NOT be performed. Read the following Cautions and Notes, then perform Sections
A and B of the Repair Procedure.
CAUTION: Before the application software can be reprogrammed (flashed) into the
Powertrain Control Module (PCM), the PCM must first be reprogrammed
(flashed) with “bootloader” software. Failure to reprogram the PCM with
the “bootloader” software first, may cause the process of reprogramming
the PCM with the application software to fail. The PCM “bootloader”
software special flash procedures must be followed closely to prevent
damage to the PCM.
18-033-07 REV. B -2-
CAUTION: The Repair Procedure involves a special and different reprogramming
(flash) procedure for “bootloader” software. Follow the Repair Procedure
steps. When performing the “bootloader” section of the Repair
Procedure DO NOT interrupt the PCM reprogramming session. This
special PCM “bootloader” software reprogramming session does not
support “abort - recovery” mode. If “bootloader” software
reprogramming is interrupted the PCM will be permanently disabled, and
will require replacement.
NOTE: The Repair Procedure should NOT be performed using the StarMOBILE™ in
its STANDALONE mode. Use the StarSCAN® to perform the entire Repair
Procedure.
NOTE: Before performing this Repair Procedure, the operating software in the
StarSCAN® must be programmed with software release level 8.01 or higher.
The software release level is visible in the blue header at the top of the
StarSCAN® screen.
PARTS REQUIRED:
Qty. Part No. Description
1 04275086AB Label, Authorized Modification
DSLFUELS Fuel Allowance (4 gallon maximum) - Allowed only if an
exhaust system manual aftertreatment regeneration is
required.
SPECIAL TOOLS / EQUIPMENT REQUIRED:
VEHICLES UPDATED USING StarSCAN®
NPN Battery Charger
CH9401 StarSCAN® Tool
CH9404 StarSCAN® Vehicle Cable
CH9409 StarSCAN® Documentation Kit
CH9410 StarSCAN® Ethernet Cable, 12 ft.
CH9412 StarSCAN® Software Update Device Kit
TechCONNECT PC or equivalent
-3- 18-033-07 REV. B
REPAIR PROCEDURE:
A). REPROGRAMMING (FLASH) PCM WITH NEW “BOOTLOADER” SOFTWARE:
CAUTION: Before the application software can be reprogrammed (flashed) into the
Powertrain Control Module (PCM), the PCM must first be reprogrammed
(flashed) with “bootloader” software. Failure to reprogram the PCM with
the “bootloader” software first, may cause the process of reprogramming
the PCM with the application software to fail. The PCM “bootloader”
software special flash procedures must be followed closely to prevent
damage to the PCM.
CAUTION: The Repair Procedure involves a special and different reprogramming
(flash) procedure for “bootloader” software. Follow the Repair Procedure
steps. When performing the “bootloader” section of the Repair
Procedure DO NOT interrupt the PCM reprogramming session. This
special PCM “bootloader” software reprogramming session does not
support “abort - recovery” mode. If “bootloader” software
reprogramming is interrupted the PCM will be permanently disabled, and
will require replacement.
NOTE: Before performing this Repair Procedure, the operating software in the
StarSCAN® must be programmed with software release level 8.01. The
software release level is visible in the blue header at the top of the
StarSCAN® screen.
NOTE: The Repair Procedure currently can not be performed using the
StarMOBILE™ in its STANDALONE mode. Use the StarSCAN® to perform the
Repair Procedure.
NOTE: The StarSCAN® diagnostic scan tool fully supports Internet connectivity.
However, to take advantage of this feature you must first configure the
StarSCAN® for your dealership's network. Make sure the StarSCAN® is
configured to the dealership's network before proceeding. For instruction on
setting up your StarSCAN® for the dealer's network refer to either:
“DealerCONNECT > Service > StarSCAN and StarMOBILE tools > Online
Documentation”, or refer to the StarSCAN® Quick Start Networking Guide.
The StarSCAN® Quick Start Networking Guide is also available on the
www.dcctools.com website under the "Download Center".
1. Open the hood and install a battery charger. Using a voltmeter, verify that the charging
rate provides 13.2 - 13.5 volts. Set the battery charger to continuous charge. Do not
allow the charger to time out during the flash process. Remove the charger from the
battery when the flash process is complete.
NOTE: Do not allow the charging voltage to climb above 13.5 volts during the flash
process.
18-033-07 REV. B -4-
2. Connect the CH9410 StarSCAN® ethernet cable to the StarSCAN® and the dealer's
network drop.
3. Connect the CH9404 StarSCAN® vehicle cable to the StarSCAN® and the vehicle.
4. Turn the ignition switch to the “ON/RUN” position.
5. Power ON the StarSCAN®.
6. Verify that the StarSCAN® is at software release 8.01 or higher. The software
release level is visible in the blue header at the top of the StarSCAN® screen.
7. Erase all flash files from the StarSCAN®. From the StarSCAN® “Home” screen:
a. Select “Show Short Cuts”.
b. Select “Tool Menu”.
c. Select “Manage Files”.
d. Select “More Options”.
e. Select “Delete All”.
f. Select “Yes” at the “About to delete all user files. Are you sure you want to
continue?” screen.
g. Select “OK” at “All user files have been removed” screen.
h. Select “Back” at “User's Files” menu.
8. Obtain PCM Bootloader software file and download to Scantool:
a. Select “ECU View”.
b. Touch the StarSCAN® screen to highlight the ECU (PCM) in the list of modules.
c. Select “More Options”.
d. Select “ECU Flash”.
e. Record part number of new application software in PCM.
f. Select “Browse for New File”.
g. Select “OK” at the Flash Download screen
h. Select “OK” at password
i. Select “Finish”
j. Highlight the PCM Bootloader software file. The bootloader file will have the letters
“BT” in the last two digits (suffix) of its part number. DO NOT select the Application
software file (which will have the letters “AT” or higher suffix in the last two digits of
its part number).
k. Select “Download to Scantool”.
l. Select “Back” one (1) time.
CAUTION: When performing the “bootloader” section of the Repair Procedure DO
NOT interrupt the PCM reprogramming session. This special PCM
“bootloader” software reprogramming session does not support “abort -
recovery” mode. If “bootloader” software reprogramming is interrupted
the PCM will be permanently disabled, and will require replacement.
NOTE: Close all doors and turn OFF all accessories (i.e. radio, hvac, lights, etc.).
9. Reprogram PCM - Download Bootloader software from ScanTool to vehicle PCM:
a. Highlight Bootloader software selected previously. The bootloader file will have the
letters “BT” in the last two digits (suffix) of its part number.
b. Select “Update Controller”.
c. Select “OK” at ECU Flash.
d. Wait until the PCM bootloader software flash is complete. Once complete:
e. Select “OK” at the Flash Update Successful screen.
f. Select “Back” three (3) times to return to the “ECU View” screen.
CAUTION: The following steps must be performed as directed.
-5- 18-033-07 REV. B
10. At the “ECU View” screen, turn the ignition switch to the “OFF” position.
11. Remove the ignition key from the ignition switch.
12. WAIT TWO (2) MINUTES.
13. Install the ignition key in the ignition switch.
14. Turn the ignition switch to the “ON/RUN” position.
15. Confirm that the PCM has the new Bootloader software. From “ECU View” screen:
a. Touch the StarSCAN® screen to highlight the ECU (PCM) in the list of modules.
b. Select “More Options”.
c. Select “ECU Flash”.
d. Confirm that the available Bootloader software file matches the resident flash file in
the PCM.
16. Erase Bootloader software file from the StarSCAN®. From the “ECU Flash” screen:
a. Select “Manage Files”.
b. Highlight the Bootloader software file in the StarSCAN® memory.
c. Select “Delete”.
d. Select “Yes” at the “Are you sure you want to delete the ECU flash file (bootloader
file) name?” screen.
e. Select “Back” one (1) time at the “Manage Files” menu.
17. Proceed to: Section B - Reprogramming (Flash) PCM With New Application Software.
B). REPROGRAMMING (FLASH) PCM WITH NEW APPLICATION SOFTWARE:
CAUTION: Before the application software can be reprogrammed (flashed) into the
Powertrain Control Module (PCM), the PCM must first be reprogrammed
(flashed) with “bootloader” software. Failure to reprogram the PCM with
the “bootloader” software first, may cause the process of reprogramming
the PCM with the application software to fail.
1. Obtain PCM Application software file and download to Scantool:
a. Select “Browse For New File”.
b. Select “OK” at the Flash Download screen.
c. Select “Finish” at Flash Update screen display download results.
d. Select the Application software file. The Application software file will have the letters
“AT” of higher in the last two digits (suffix) of its part number. DO NOT select the
Bootloader software file which has the letters “BT” in the last two digits (suffix) of its
part number.
e. Highlight the Application software file for download from the Web to StarSCAN®.
f. Select “Download to Scantool”.
g. Select “Close” at the Download file screen. When the Application file download from

 

Web to StarSCAN® is complete then:
h. Select “Back” one (1) time.
2. Reprogram PCM with new Application software from Scantool:
a. Highlight the Application software file for download from StarSCAN® to PCM.
b. Select “Update Controller”.
c. Select “OK” at ECU Flash screen.
d. Wait for file download to PCM to complete.
e. Select “OK” at the Flash ECU Successful screen.
3. Verify that the highlighted Application software file part number matches the resident
(application) flash file part number.
a. Select “Back” four (4) times to return to the Home screen.
b. Turn the ignition switch to the “OFF” position. WAIT 10 seconds.
18-033-07 REV. B -6-
NOTE: Due to the ECU (PCM) programming procedure, a DTC may be set in other
electronic modules within the vehicle, if so equipped. Some DTC's may cause
the MIL to illuminate.
4. Clear all DTC's. At the Home screen:
a. Turn the ignition switch to the “ON/RUN” position. Do not start vehicle engine.
b. Select “System View”.
c. Select “All DTC's”.
d. Select “Clear All Stored DTC's”.
e. Select “Yes” at the confirm screen.
f. Turn the ignition switch to the “OFF” position. WAIT 10 seconds.
g. Start the vehicle engine to verify that all DTC's have been erased.
h. Stop the vehicle engine. Turn the ignition switch to the “OFF” position
NOTE: The following step is required by law when reprogramming a PCM or TCM.
5. Type the necessary information on the “Authorized Modification Label” p/n
04275086AB and attach near the VECI label (Fig. 1).
Fig. 1 AUTHORIZED MODIFICATION LABEL
1 - POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE P/N (INSERT P/N) USED
2 - CHANGE AUTHORITY: TSB XX-XXX-XX
3 - DEALER CODE: XXXXX
4 - DATE: XX-XX-XX
C). EXHAUST SYSTEM AFTERTREATMENT REGENERATION - TO DESOOT AND
DESOx:
NOTE: Perform an Exhaust System Aftertreatment Regeneration ONLY if DTC P1452
or P2463 are present. If DTC P242F is present then contact STAR for
additional technical assistance.
Verify that the exhaust system aftertreatment is capable of regeneration:
1. If not already connected, connect the StarSCAN® to the vehicle Diagnostic Link
Connector (DLC).
-7- 18-033-07 REV. B
2. Was DTC P242F present at the start of the Repair Procedure?
a. If YES >>> then STOP. Contact STAR for additional technical assistance.
b. If NO >>> then proceed to the next step.
3. Were either (or both) DTC P1451 or P2463 present at the start of the Repair
Procedure?
a. If YES >>> then Section C - Exhaust System Aftertreatment Regeneration MUST
BE performed. Proceed to the next step.
b. If NO >>> then STOP. With no DTC present, Section C - Exhaust System
Aftertreatment Regeneration SHOULD NOT BE performed.
Vehicle engine set-up procedure to enable a manual (forced) aftertreatment
regeneration:
1. Turn the ignition switch to the “ON/RUN” position. DO NOT start the engine at this
time.
2. From the ”Home” screen on the StarSCAN®:
a. Select the “ECU View” button.
b. Select the “PCM Powertrain Control Module” button.
c. Select the “Misc. Functions” button. Wait while the StarSCAN® enters the
Miscellaneous Functions screen.
d. Select/highlight “Reset Regenerative Filter Timers”, and select the “START” button.
e. Once in the “Reset Regenerative Filter Timers” screen select: the “NEXT” button,
then select the “FINISH” button.
f. Turn the ignition switch to the “OFF” position and WAIT 10 seconds.
NOTE: It is IMPORTANT to turn the ignition switch to the “OFF” position and WAIT
10 seconds. This will allow the PCM to reset.
3. Start the vehicle engine and allow to idle. The vehicle engine must be running
before proceeding further.
4. From the “Miscellaneous Functions” screen, scroll to and then select:
a. “Mobile DeSoot - NO Minimum Required Soot Load”. Look closely and make
sure you have selected the correct function.
b. Select the “START” button.
c. Once in the “Mobile DeSoot - NO Minimum Required Soot Load” screen, select the
“NEXT” button, then select the “FINISH” button.
5. The vehicle engine set-up for manual aftertreatment regeneration mode is now set and
ready for the vehicle regen road drive.
NOTE: If the above screen displays “Mobile DeSoot - NO Minimum Required Soot
Load enabling failed. Please retry or exit”, verify that the engine was started
prior to entering the Mobile DeSoot screen
Aftertreatment Regeneration Road Drive:
1. Page back one time to the “PCM Powertrain Control Module” screen. Select the “Data
Display” button.
2. Once in the “Data Display” screen:
a. Select/highlight “PT/Combustion Manager Interface Mode”, and then select “Add
To Graph”.
b. Select/highlight “Exhaust Gas Temp Sensor 3” in degrees F, and then select “Add
To Graph”.
c. Select the “Show Graph” button.
18-033-07 REV. B -8-
3. The manual aftertreatment regeneration process for DeSoot and DeSOx will stop if
one of the following occurs:
a. Ignition switch is turned to the “OFF” position.
b. Transmission is in PARK.
c. A door is opened when at a stop.
d. The parking brake is set when the transmission is in neutral.
e. Exhaust temperature is below 525F.
f. Certain diagnostic trouble codes (DTC's) are present.
4. Drive the vehicle at highway speed, between 50 to 60 mph (preferred), and monitor
the “PT/Combustion Manager Interface Mode” and the “Exhaust Gas Temp Sensor 3”
values. Note the gradual increase in exhaust temperature. DO NOT stop the engine
during the manual regen road drive. The vehicle may come to a stop and engine may
idle during the manual regen road drive without significant impact to the aftertreatment
regeneration process, other then extending the time it will take to complete a full
regeneration of the aftertreatment system. Too much extended idling or stopping will
cause exhaust temperature to drop 525F, which may cause the manual regen process
to stop.
NOTE: The data value will not change from “Normal” to “DeSoot” or “DeSOx” until
the appropriate exhaust temperatures and/or vehicle speed are achieved.
NOTE: Driving the vehicle at highway speeds between 50 to 60 mph is the ideal
environment to allow maximum DeSoot and DeSOx to occur in the quickest
amount of time. The manual regen road drive time will vary due to several
parameters and your driving environment. DeSoot and DeSOx will occur at
other vehicle speeds, but may take longer to complete. The vehicle may
come to a stop, with the engine at idle, and the aftertreatment regeneration
process for DeSoot and DeSOx may continue to occur (at a slower rate), as
long as the exhaust temperature remains above 525F.
5. Use the StarSCAN® graph to monitor the progress of the manual aftertreatment
regeneration process for DeSoot and DeSOx.
6. When the “PT/Combustion Manager Interface Mode” no longer enters either DeSoot or
DeSOx modes, and instead remains in the “Normal” or “DeNOx” modes, then the
manual aftertreatment regeneration process for DeSoot and DeSOx is complete. You
will also notice a decrease in exhaust temperature.
7. When the road drive is complete and the vehicle has returned to the dealership, stop
the vehicle engine.
8. Clear all DTC's. At the “HOME” screen of the StarSCAN®:
a. Turn the ignition switch to the “ON/RUN” position. Do not start vehicle engine.
b. Select “System View”.
c. Select “All DTC's”.
d. Select “Clear All Stored DTC's”.
e. Select “Yes” at the confirm screen.
f. Turn the ignition switch to the “OFF” position. WAIT 10 seconds.
g. Start the vehicle engine to verify that all DTC's have been erased.
h. Stop the vehicle engine. Turn the ignition switch to the “OFF” position.
-9- 18-033-07 REV. B
POLICY:
Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty.
TIME ALLOWANCE:
Labor Operation No: Description Amount
18-19-04-35 Module, Powertrain Control (PCM) - Reprogram
w/Bootloader and Application Software Files (B)
0.7 Hrs.
11-50-02-90 Additional Operation (as required): Exhaust
System After Treatment Regeneration for 6.7L
Cummins (B)
1.2 Hrs.
FAILURE CODE:
ZZ Service Action
18-033-07 REV. B -10-

 

where do you get all you info vzdude you are a walking library on tsb keep you the great work

 

Have access to the Dealer Connect web site! Kinda cool huh!?

 

Hello everyone I'm new to these forums, I have been reading all the interesting info about the 6.7L and the info is most helpful. I was wondering if someone out there can help me. I checked for codes today and I have p513,and p061a can someone tell me what they are?
Here are some of the things I have noticed since I bought my truck, exhaust brake engaging on its own when off the fuel (switch not on), and delayed deactivation when the switch is on and i'm using it. Engine stumble during light throttle tip in. Engine oil level looks high after sitting the truck overnight. Below 66.f the manifold heater light may not light in the morning. The ETC light sometimes comes on when I engauge the high idle. when idline the truck at low idle the engine get louder(rattlier) and there is a weird tick in the engine.

 

Thanks vzdude. I'll take this to the shop tommorow. I think I'll make two copies, one to give the guy, and the other to stick up, well you know. Hopefully he's smart enough to read it and figure it out.

 

Fill out your sig so we know what you're driving. Do you have any mods? Put them in your sig as well. Top left of page under the User CP. May want to start a new thread though.

 

I had the original problem mentioned in this thread. I had the throttle stumble and brought it to my delaer here in N.M. They not only knew of the problem they worked on it fast. The re-flash has been working fine so far. I also had clunking in the tranny. The dealer found the noise in the third member and adjusted the pinion gear? Sounds better.

I also get what appears to be engine brake coming on when off the gas and when I have not activated the brake? I'm glad to hear others are seeing the same thing and it's not be going nuts.

Still haven't hauled anything heavy, just my 20' boat and a skid steer.

Have them call Tate Branch Dodge in Artesia, N.M. for confirmation on TSB.