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Old 07-12-2007, 04:30 PM
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Continuing Code Problem

I keep getting a check engine light and the code is always P245A. I've been back to the Dealer 4 or 5 times the last time they put in the re-flash for trucks built before mid June.
I went 9 days after that before the light came on again yesterday , took it in and they have e-mailed Dodge but no response yet. Anyone had same problem and know what needs to be done? I've been able to remove the code with my scanner , but it shouldn't be happening!
It does not affect truck's performance at all , it runs great .
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Man , do any dealers have a clue? I guess I need to start my own dealer and only sell Dodge diesels. I think the service department alone could make a mint doing "honest" service work and warranty repairs! Here's the fix. Print this out and give it to them. Then smack 'em in the back of the head and tell them to check for TSB's every once in awhile!

Ram Truck 2500 & 3500 - Excessive Soot Accumulation In Exhaust, PCM May Not
Reprogram, OBD Readiness Status And Other Engine System Enhancements
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves selectively erasing and reprogramming the Powertrain Control
Module (PCM) with “bootloader” software and application software.
CAUTION: A special “bootloader” software with special reprogramming (flash)
procedures must be installed in the PCM before the application software.
Once the “bootloader” software has been successfully installed (flashed)
in the PCM, then the application software can be reprogrammed (flashed)
into the PCM.
MODELS:
2007 (DH/D1) Ram Truck (2500 & 3500)
NOTE: This bulletin applies to Ram Truck 2500 & 3500 vehicles equipped with 6.7L
Cummins turbo-diesel engine (sales code ETJ) built on or before June 11,
2007 (MDH 0611XX).
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
The vehicle operator and/or technician may experience one or more of the following
conditions and/or enhancements:
1. The technician may not be able to reprogram (flash) the PCM with new
application software.
NUMBER: 18-033-07 REV. B
GROUP: Vehicle Performance
DATE: June 28, 2007
2. The vehicle may fail an Emission Inspection Maintenance (I/M) Test because two or
more On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) monitors report that they are not ready for testing.
This condition may cause the customer vehicle to not pass an Emissions I/M test. The
following is a list of OBD Monitors that may report as not ready for testing:
a. Non-Methane Hydrocarbon (NMHC) Catalyst Monitor.
b. Nitrogen Oxide (NOx) Absorber Monitor.
c. Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor Monitor.
d. Electrical Charging System Monitor.
e. EGR System Monitor.
f. Oxygen Sensor Monitor.
3. After extensive idling of the vehicle engine or if an intake air leak is present, the
vehicle operator may experience a MIL illumination and/or an Electronic Vehicle
Information Center (EVIC) message alert due to one or more of the following DTC's:
a. P1451 - Diesel Particulate Filter System Performance.
b. P2463 - Diesel Particulate Filter - Soot Accumulation.
c. P242F - Diesel Particulate Filter Restriction - Ash Accumulation.
4. The vehicle operator may experience a MIL illumination due to one of the following
DTC's:
a. P0106 - Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Performance.
b. P242B - Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor Circuit Performance - Bank 1 Sensor 3.
c. P245A - EGR Cooler Bypass Control Circuit - Open.
5. An intermittent rough engine idle and/or white smoke following initial engine start.
6. A throttle tip-in stumble at engine speeds of 1,300 to 2,100 rpm.
7. An engine hesitation at altitude of 5,000 feet between engine speeds of 1,200 to 1,600
rpm.
8. A turbocharger “chuff-like” sound during rapid deceleration.
DIAGNOSIS:
1. Connect the StarSCAN® to the vehicle Diagnostic Link Connector (DLC).
2. From the “Home” menu, select:
a. “ECU View”.
b. “PCM Powertrain Control Module”.
c. “View DTC's”.
3. Record DTC's that are present in the PCM.
4. Is DTC P242F present?
a. If YES >>> then STOP. Contact STAR for additional technical assistance.
b. If NO >>> then proceed to the next step.
5. Are either (or both) DTC P1451 or P2463 present?
a. If YES >>> then Section C - Exhaust System Aftertreatment Regeneration must be
performed AFTER Sections A and B (reprogramming the PCM for bootloader and
application software) of the Repair Procedure have been completed. Read the
following Cautions and Notes, then proceed to Section A of the Repair Procedure.
b. If NO >>> then Section C - Exhaust System Aftertreatment Regeneration should
NOT be performed. Read the following Cautions and Notes, then perform Sections
A and B of the Repair Procedure.
CAUTION: Before the application software can be reprogrammed (flashed) into the
Powertrain Control Module (PCM), the PCM must first be reprogrammed
(flashed) with “bootloader” software. Failure to reprogram the PCM with
the “bootloader” software first, may cause the process of reprogramming
the PCM with the application software to fail. The PCM “bootloader”
software special flash procedures must be followed closely to prevent
damage to the PCM.
18-033-07 REV. B -2-
CAUTION: The Repair Procedure involves a special and different reprogramming
(flash) procedure for “bootloader” software. Follow the Repair Procedure
steps. When performing the “bootloader” section of the Repair
Procedure DO NOT interrupt the PCM reprogramming session. This
special PCM “bootloader” software reprogramming session does not
support “abort - recovery” mode. If “bootloader” software
reprogramming is interrupted the PCM will be permanently disabled, and
will require replacement.
NOTE: The Repair Procedure should NOT be performed using the StarMOBILE™ in
its STANDALONE mode. Use the StarSCAN® to perform the entire Repair
Procedure.
NOTE: Before performing this Repair Procedure, the operating software in the
StarSCAN® must be programmed with software release level 8.01 or higher.
The software release level is visible in the blue header at the top of the
StarSCAN® screen.
PARTS REQUIRED:
Qty. Part No. Description
1 04275086AB Label, Authorized Modification
DSLFUELS Fuel Allowance (4 gallon maximum) - Allowed only if an
exhaust system manual aftertreatment regeneration is
required.
SPECIAL TOOLS / EQUIPMENT REQUIRED:
VEHICLES UPDATED USING StarSCAN®
NPN Battery Charger
CH9401 StarSCAN® Tool
CH9404 StarSCAN® Vehicle Cable
CH9409 StarSCAN® Documentation Kit
CH9410 StarSCAN® Ethernet Cable, 12 ft.
CH9412 StarSCAN® Software Update Device Kit
TechCONNECT PC or equivalent
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REPAIR PROCEDURE:
A). REPROGRAMMING (FLASH) PCM WITH NEW “BOOTLOADER” SOFTWARE:
CAUTION: Before the application software can be reprogrammed (flashed) into the
Powertrain Control Module (PCM), the PCM must first be reprogrammed
(flashed) with “bootloader” software. Failure to reprogram the PCM with
the “bootloader” software first, may cause the process of reprogramming
the PCM with the application software to fail. The PCM “bootloader”
software special flash procedures must be followed closely to prevent
damage to the PCM.
CAUTION: The Repair Procedure involves a special and different reprogramming
(flash) procedure for “bootloader” software. Follow the Repair Procedure
steps. When performing the “bootloader” section of the Repair
Procedure DO NOT interrupt the PCM reprogramming session. This
special PCM “bootloader” software reprogramming session does not
support “abort - recovery” mode. If “bootloader” software
reprogramming is interrupted the PCM will be permanently disabled, and
will require replacement.
NOTE: Before performing this Repair Procedure, the operating software in the
StarSCAN® must be programmed with software release level 8.01. The
software release level is visible in the blue header at the top of the
StarSCAN® screen.
NOTE: The Repair Procedure currently can not be performed using the
StarMOBILE™ in its STANDALONE mode. Use the StarSCAN® to perform the
Repair Procedure.
NOTE: The StarSCAN® diagnostic scan tool fully supports Internet connectivity.
However, to take advantage of this feature you must first configure the
StarSCAN® for your dealership's network. Make sure the StarSCAN® is
configured to the dealership's network before proceeding. For instruction on
setting up your StarSCAN® for the dealer's network refer to either:
“DealerCONNECT > Service > StarSCAN and StarMOBILE tools > Online
Documentation”, or refer to the StarSCAN® Quick Start Networking Guide.
The StarSCAN® Quick Start Networking Guide is also available on the
www.dcctools.com website under the "Download Center".
1. Open the hood and install a battery charger. Using a voltmeter, verify that the charging
rate provides 13.2 - 13.5 volts. Set the battery charger to continuous charge. Do not
allow the charger to time out during the flash process. Remove the charger from the
battery when the flash process is complete.
NOTE: Do not allow the charging voltage to climb above 13.5 volts during the flash
process.
18-033-07 REV. B -4-
2. Connect the CH9410 StarSCAN® ethernet cable to the StarSCAN® and the dealer's
network drop.
3. Connect the CH9404 StarSCAN® vehicle cable to the StarSCAN® and the vehicle.
4. Turn the ignition switch to the “ON/RUN” position.
5. Power ON the StarSCAN®.
6. Verify that the StarSCAN® is at software release 8.01 or higher. The software
release level is visible in the blue header at the top of the StarSCAN® screen.
7. Erase all flash files from the StarSCAN®. From the StarSCAN® “Home” screen:
a. Select “Show Short Cuts”.
b. Select “Tool Menu”.
c. Select “Manage Files”.
d. Select “More Options”.
e. Select “Delete All”.
f. Select “Yes” at the “About to delete all user files. Are you sure you want to
continue?” screen.
g. Select “OK” at “All user files have been removed” screen.
h. Select “Back” at “User's Files” menu.
8. Obtain PCM Bootloader software file and download to Scantool:
a. Select “ECU View”.
b. Touch the StarSCAN® screen to highlight the ECU (PCM) in the list of modules.
c. Select “More Options”.
d. Select “ECU Flash”.
e. Record part number of new application software in PCM.
f. Select “Browse for New File”.
g. Select “OK” at the Flash Download screen
h. Select “OK” at password
i. Select “Finish”
j. Highlight the PCM Bootloader software file. The bootloader file will have the letters
“BT” in the last two digits (suffix) of its part number. DO NOT select the Application
software file (which will have the letters “AT” or higher suffix in the last two digits of
its part number).
k. Select “Download to Scantool”.
l. Select “Back” one (1) time.
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CAUTION: When performing the “bootloader” section of the Repair Procedure DO
NOT interrupt the PCM reprogramming session. This special PCM
“bootloader” software reprogramming session does not support “abort -
recovery” mode. If “bootloader” software reprogramming is interrupted
the PCM will be permanently disabled, and will require replacement.
NOTE: Close all doors and turn OFF all accessories (i.e. radio, hvac, lights, etc.).
9. Reprogram PCM - Download Bootloader software from ScanTool to vehicle PCM:
a. Highlight Bootloader software selected previously. The bootloader file will have the
letters “BT” in the last two digits (suffix) of its part number.
b. Select “Update Controller”.
c. Select “OK” at ECU Flash.
d. Wait until the PCM bootloader software flash is complete. Once complete:
e. Select “OK” at the Flash Update Successful screen.
f. Select “Back” three (3) times to return to the “ECU View” screen.
CAUTION: The following steps must be performed as directed.
-5- 18-033-07 REV. B
10. At the “ECU View” screen, turn the ignition switch to the “OFF” position.
11. Remove the ignition key from the ignition switch.
12. WAIT TWO (2) MINUTES.
13. Install the ignition key in the ignition switch.
14. Turn the ignition switch to the “ON/RUN” position.
15. Confirm that the PCM has the new Bootloader software. From “ECU View” screen:
a. Touch the StarSCAN® screen to highlight the ECU (PCM) in the list of modules.
b. Select “More Options”.
c. Select “ECU Flash”.
d. Confirm that the available Bootloader software file matches the resident flash file in
the PCM.
16. Erase Bootloader software file from the StarSCAN®. From the “ECU Flash” screen:
a. Select “Manage Files”.
b. Highlight the Bootloader software file in the StarSCAN® memory.
c. Select “Delete”.
d. Select “Yes” at the “Are you sure you want to delete the ECU flash file (bootloader
file) name?” screen.
e. Select “Back” one (1) time at the “Manage Files” menu.
17. Proceed to: Section B - Reprogramming (Flash) PCM With New Application Software.
B). REPROGRAMMING (FLASH) PCM WITH NEW APPLICATION SOFTWARE:
CAUTION: Before the application software can be reprogrammed (flashed) into the
Powertrain Control Module (PCM), the PCM must first be reprogrammed
(flashed) with “bootloader” software. Failure to reprogram the PCM with
the “bootloader” software first, may cause the process of reprogramming
the PCM with the application software to fail.
1. Obtain PCM Application software file and download to Scantool:
a. Select “Browse For New File”.
b. Select “OK” at the Flash Download screen.
c. Select “Finish” at Flash Update screen display download results.
d. Select the Application software file. The Application software file will have the letters
“AT” of higher in the last two digits (suffix) of its part number. DO NOT select the
Bootloader software file which has the letters “BT” in the last two digits (suffix) of its
part number.
e. Highlight the Application software file for download from the Web to StarSCAN®.
f. Select “Download to Scantool”.
g. Select “Close” at the Download file screen. When the Application file download from
Web to StarSCAN® is complete then:
h. Select “Back” one (1) time.
2. Reprogram PCM with new Application software from Scantool:
a. Highlight the Application software file for download from StarSCAN® to PCM.
b. Select “Update Controller”.
c. Select “OK” at ECU Flash screen.
d. Wait for file download to PCM to complete.
e. Select “OK” at the Flash ECU Successful screen.
3. Verify that the highlighted Application software file part number matches the resident
(application) flash file part number.
a. Select “Back” four (4) times to return to the Home screen.
b. Turn the ignition switch to the “OFF” position. WAIT 10 seconds.
18-033-07 REV. B -6-
NOTE: Due to the ECU (PCM) programming procedure, a DTC may be set in other
electronic modules within the vehicle, if so equipped. Some DTC's may cause
the MIL to illuminate.
4. Clear all DTC's. At the Home screen:
a. Turn the ignition switch to the “ON/RUN” position. Do not start vehicle engine.
b. Select “System View”.
c. Select “All DTC's”.
d. Select “Clear All Stored DTC's”.
e. Select “Yes” at the confirm screen.
f. Turn the ignition switch to the “OFF” position. WAIT 10 seconds.
g. Start the vehicle engine to verify that all DTC's have been erased.
h. Stop the vehicle engine. Turn the ignition switch to the “OFF” position
NOTE: The following step is required by law when reprogramming a PCM or TCM.
5. Type the necessary information on the “Authorized Modification Label” p/n
04275086AB and attach near the VECI label (Fig. 1).
Fig. 1 AUTHORIZED MODIFICATION LABEL
1 - POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE P/N (INSERT P/N) USED
2 - CHANGE AUTHORITY: TSB XX-XXX-XX
3 - DEALER CODE: XXXXX
4 - DATE: XX-XX-XX
C). EXHAUST SYSTEM AFTERTREATMENT REGENERATION - TO DESOOT AND
DESOx:
NOTE: Perform an Exhaust System Aftertreatment Regeneration ONLY if DTC P1452
or P2463 are present. If DTC P242F is present then contact STAR for
additional technical assistance.
Verify that the exhaust system aftertreatment is capable of regeneration:
1. If not already connected, connect the StarSCAN® to the vehicle Diagnostic Link
Connector (DLC).
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2. Was DTC P242F present at the start of the Repair Procedure?
a. If YES >>> then STOP. Contact STAR for additional technical assistance.
b. If NO >>> then proceed to the next step.
3. Were either (or both) DTC P1451 or P2463 present at the start of the Repair
Procedure?
a. If YES >>> then Section C - Exhaust System Aftertreatment Regeneration MUST
BE performed. Proceed to the next step.
b. If NO >>> then STOP. With no DTC present, Section C - Exhaust System
Aftertreatment Regeneration SHOULD NOT BE performed.
Vehicle engine set-up procedure to enable a manual (forced) aftertreatment
regeneration:
1. Turn the ignition switch to the “ON/RUN” position. DO NOT start the engine at this
time.
2. From the ”Home” screen on the StarSCAN®:
a. Select the “ECU View” button.
b. Select the “PCM Powertrain Control Module” button.
c. Select the “Misc. Functions” button. Wait while the StarSCAN® enters the
Miscellaneous Functions screen.
d. Select/highlight “Reset Regenerative Filter Timers”, and select the “START” button.
e. Once in the “Reset Regenerative Filter Timers” screen select: the “NEXT” button,
then select the “FINISH” button.
f. Turn the ignition switch to the “OFF” position and WAIT 10 seconds.
NOTE: It is IMPORTANT to turn the ignition switch to the “OFF” position and WAIT
10 seconds. This will allow the PCM to reset.
3. Start the vehicle engine and allow to idle. The vehicle engine must be running
before proceeding further.
4. From the “Miscellaneous Functions” screen, scroll to and then select:
a. “Mobile DeSoot - NO Minimum Required Soot Load”. Look closely and make
sure you have selected the correct function.
b. Select the “START” button.
c. Once in the “Mobile DeSoot - NO Minimum Required Soot Load” screen, select the
“NEXT” button, then select the “FINISH” button.
5. The vehicle engine set-up for manual aftertreatment regeneration mode is now set and
ready for the vehicle regen road drive.
NOTE: If the above screen displays “Mobile DeSoot - NO Minimum Required Soot
Load enabling failed. Please retry or exit”, verify that the engine was started
prior to entering the Mobile DeSoot screen
Aftertreatment Regeneration Road Drive:
1. Page back one time to the “PCM Powertrain Control Module” screen. Select the “Data
Display” button.
2. Once in the “Data Display” screen:
a. Select/highlight “PT/Combustion Manager Interface Mode”, and then select “Add
To Graph”.
b. Select/highlight “Exhaust Gas Temp Sensor 3” in degrees F, and then select “Add
To Graph”.
c. Select the “Show Graph” button.
18-033-07 REV. B -8-
3. The manual aftertreatment regeneration process for DeSoot and DeSOx will stop if
one of the following occurs:
a. Ignition switch is turned to the “OFF” position.
b. Transmission is in PARK.
c. A door is opened when at a stop.
d. The parking brake is set when the transmission is in neutral.
e. Exhaust temperature is below 525F.
f. Certain diagnostic trouble codes (DTC's) are present.
4. Drive the vehicle at highway speed, between 50 to 60 mph (preferred), and monitor
the “PT/Combustion Manager Interface Mode” and the “Exhaust Gas Temp Sensor 3”
values. Note the gradual increase in exhaust temperature. DO NOT stop the engine
during the manual regen road drive. The vehicle may come to a stop and engine may
idle during the manual regen road drive without significant impact to the aftertreatment
regeneration process, other then extending the time it will take to complete a full
regeneration of the aftertreatment system. Too much extended idling or stopping will
cause exhaust temperature to drop 525F, which may cause the manual regen process
to stop.
NOTE: The data value will not change from “Normal” to “DeSoot” or “DeSOx” until
the appropriate exhaust temperatures and/or vehicle speed are achieved.
NOTE: Driving the vehicle at highway speeds between 50 to 60 mph is the ideal
environment to allow maximum DeSoot and DeSOx to occur in the quickest
amount of time. The manual regen road drive time will vary due to several
parameters and your driving environment. DeSoot and DeSOx will occur at
other vehicle speeds, but may take longer to complete. The vehicle may
come to a stop, with the engine at idle, and the aftertreatment regeneration
process for DeSoot and DeSOx may continue to occur (at a slower rate), as
long as the exhaust temperature remains above 525F.
5. Use the StarSCAN® graph to monitor the progress of the manual aftertreatment
regeneration process for DeSoot and DeSOx.
6. When the “PT/Combustion Manager Interface Mode” no longer enters either DeSoot or
DeSOx modes, and instead remains in the “Normal” or “DeNOx” modes, then the
manual aftertreatment regeneration process for DeSoot and DeSOx is complete. You
will also notice a decrease in exhaust temperature.
7. When the road drive is complete and the vehicle has returned to the dealership, stop
the vehicle engine.
8. Clear all DTC's. At the “HOME” screen of the StarSCAN®:
a. Turn the ignition switch to the “ON/RUN” position. Do not start vehicle engine.
b. Select “System View”.
c. Select “All DTC's”.
d. Select “Clear All Stored DTC's”.
e. Select “Yes” at the confirm screen.
f. Turn the ignition switch to the “OFF” position. WAIT 10 seconds.
g. Start the vehicle engine to verify that all DTC's have been erased.
h. Stop the vehicle engine. Turn the ignition switch to the “OFF” position.
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POLICY:
Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty.
TIME ALLOWANCE:
Labor Operation No: Description Amount
18-19-04-35 Module, Powertrain Control (PCM) - Reprogram
w/Bootloader and Application Software Files (B)
0.7 Hrs.
11-50-02-90 Additional Operation (as required): Exhaust
System After Treatment Regeneration for 6.7L
Cummins (B)
1.2 Hrs.
FAILURE CODE:
ZZ Service Action
18-033-07 REV. B -10-
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Sorry, dang long TSB's wont fit all in one post!
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Great info.

Now when the light comes back, on any other suggestions. STAR doesn't seem to have the answer; Cummins doesn't seem to have the answer (they have been to our dealership twice). The dealership doesn't design the vehicles, they don't assemble the vehicles, and they didn't have anything to do with engineering of the vehicles. Why would you think they should be able to fix the vehicles when Chrysler and Cummins don’t seem to be able to??

Sorry for the rant.

I understand the dealership is where the vehicle is bought, and is where everyone goes when they have a problem with their vehicle. But keep in mind they can only do what Chrysler tells them to do.
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Wow ! I'll give them this. They may want to hire me!!!
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Originally Posted by Tmc243
Great info.

Now when the light comes back, on any other suggestions. STAR doesn't seem to have the answer; Cummins doesn't seem to have the answer (they have been to our dealership twice). The dealership doesn't design the vehicles, they don't assemble the vehicles, and they didn't have anything to do with engineering of the vehicles. Why would you think they should be able to fix the vehicles when Chrysler and Cummins don’t seem to be able to??
That info came straight from the Dodge Dealerconnect web site that EVERY Dodge technician has access to. It is a SHAME that they don't use it more often. There could be an issue beyond this flash, but it didn't sound to me that they had even tried anything yet, just kept clearing the code. There is a ton of vehicles that could be fixed first visit and make the dealer shine like a new penny with their customers if they only used the resources that are made available. Thats my rant! I will now step down from my soapbox! LOL
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I may not have been clear , the latest TSB has already been done. Still the light comes on and the code is P245A. They are trying to get an answer form Dodge Tech but no answer yet. Light came on again this AM.
Just wondering if anyone else is having the same problem?
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P245A problem

Hey I have an 07 I bought in March and had the same code come on two weeks after owning it. I took mine back a few times to the dealer. After many calls in, the dealer called me back and said there was a recall on this. They were sent the part and since being installed it has not come back on.
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I am sure glad I drive an '03
98K miles of trouble free enjoyment

Rrloren,

The "lastest" TSB that was put on may not have been the TSB that vzdude has so kindly informed you about.
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Originally Posted by vzdude
That info came straight from the Dodge Dealerconnect web site that EVERY Dodge technician has access to. It is a SHAME that they don't use it more often. There could be an issue beyond this flash, but it didn't sound to me that they had even tried anything yet, just kept clearing the code. There is a ton of vehicles that could be fixed first visit and make the dealer shine like a new penny with their customers if they only used the resources that are made available. Thats my rant! I will now step down from my soapbox! LOL
I understand where the information came from. The problem is after performing the RRT first, and then having the vehicle come back and performing the TSB (including section C that isn't done with the RRT) and the vehicle comes back again. Contacting Star, having two Cummins engineers come out. Where do you go from there? All I'm trying to say is that it is not always the dealers fault. I’m sure you’ve heard Doctors practice medicine, Lawyers practice Law, I think the Engineers are just practicing sometimes also.
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Originally Posted by Tmc243
I understand where the information came from. The problem is after performing the RRT first, and then having the vehicle come back and performing the TSB (including section C that isn't done with the RRT) and the vehicle comes back again. Contacting Star, having two Cummins engineers come out. Where do you go from there? All I'm trying to say is that it is not always the dealers fault. I’m sure you’ve heard Doctors practice medicine, Lawyers practice Law, I think the Engineers are just practicing sometimes also.
I definately agree on that one! I guess the two of you have the same avatar, so I got a little confused as to who was who there! I've heard that some of the trucks that don't get a lot of heavy driving are clogging up the tubes. I would look at the exh. gas pressure sensor tube and also watch the exh. gas pressure and compare it to one that doesn't set the code. thats where I would start at least.

Originally Posted by Rrloren
I may not have been clear , the latest TSB has already been done. Still the light comes on and the code is P245A. They are trying to get an answer form Dodge Tech but no answer yet. Light came on again this AM.
Just wondering if anyone else is having the same problem?
Sounds like there are quite a few people having similar problems. If there actually isn't a problem with the sensor readings, then it will probably come out in a flash to reprogram. I missed that fact that you had the tsb done already! Sorry.
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Just found out that there is an EGR cleaning kit out. The tubes are clogging. One of the things I though could be happenening since everything else was checking out. May have your dealer look into that!
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Rrloren,

You are not the only one with this reoccurring code. I have made four dealer visits with the current stay lasting two days and I do not have the truck back yet. The most current TSB was applied the during the second dealer attempt (seven days ago) at fixing the never ending CEL with the EGR valve error.

I fail to understand how a cleaning kit is going to provide a long-term fix to our problem. My vehicle has less that 2K on the clock and my patience is rapidly running out.

I will post an update when the problem has been truly fixed and would appreciate the same from anyone else would has conquered this issue.
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Originally Posted by SBishop
I am sure glad I drive an '03
98K miles of trouble free enjoyment
Right on man, glad you are enjoying your truck. Now, head on down to the local hospital and tell them you are suffering from 6.7 envy. Trust me, they will know exactly what you mean and get you the proper treatment. Or you can print out the following for their reference.

HUMAN TSB #6.7NV

Patient states clearly and often that he loves his older truck.

Patient also spends hours each day reading sections of webboards specifically set aside for 6.7 trucks with no older content

Patient likes to tell owners in the 6.7 section that he is very glad he doesn't own one of their trucks, but yet....he is still reading all about them every chance he gets.

DIAGNOSIS

Patient clearly suffers from 6.7 envy, possibly exasperated by low self esteem and fuelpumpkabloowee syndrome. Treatment can be as simple as giving patient enough of a pay raise to afford the new truck, but occasionally requires a swift kick in the seat and the advice to stop reading about the 6.7's that people are loving every day and he might stop obsessing over one himself.



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