What's this 7 and 10 micron crap, the filters I'm using are more efficient than that(5 and 2 mic), see that's what I'm talking about, people don't realize what all is available aftermarket(Wix Baldwin Hastings Amsoil Donaldson). Not that I care about warranty, but I'd love to see DC prove that my 2 mic WIX fuel filtration system caused any kind of failure/problems or void a warranty.

Alot of you guys need to open your eyes and do some research on diesel fuel filtration, you put a 30.00 filter head in line in your fuel system and you will be able to blow the doors off factory filtration.

 

But they are 5 and 2 mic nominal.. how do you know if that even meets the OEM spec of 7 microns absolute... (from what I have seen on filters you might get there, but I doubt it. I have seen filters with a 2 micron nominal, and a 15 micron absolute rating. But the Baldwin PF7977 is 5 absolute and 1-2 nominal, so?? its a guess. Call and ask WIX why they don't use absolute and they will give you 43 reasons, none of which answered your question).

I have aftermarket fuel filtration, and I know what my absolute ratings are.. I can say that you don't.. you know what your nominal ratings are. I run a Cat 1R0750 (2 microns absolute), Baldwin PF7977 (5 microns absolute), and a Baldwin BF1212 (20 microns absolute).. those are all also single pass ratings.

The same filters in WIX are 2 microns nominal, 7 microns nominal, and 12 microns nominal.. I have no way of knowing what the absolute rating is.

And the original question in this thread was about the OE canister... WIX does not meet the OE specs for the OE canister filter. Its up to you if you want to guess that others do.

 

Dude chill out man! I was just using the 7 and 10 micron as an example. I know ah64id runs an awesome setup with a Baldwin BF1212 WFS and Baldwin PF7977 in the stock canister as primary and a Cat 1R-0750 as his secondary filtration. This filtration setup exceeds what Dodge requires.

I have a similar setup with ah64id using the Baldwin PF7977 in the stock canister (the original question of this thread) and a Fleetguard FF5320 and Cat 1R-0750 as my secondary. https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...ht=dual+filter Attached is Fleetguard FF5320 data sheet to get familiar with the specs and as you can see it is rated 5 micron absolute and not 2 as written on the canister. It is always better to have more filtration than less.

 

Guys, do you remember this being the original question? Re-read my comments, point being there is nothing wrong w/ WIX, Baldwin.........bla,bla,bla...except Fram, they are truly junk. Is the dealer going to void a warranty when a Wix 7 mic nominal filter is used??? Who knows, they will have a hard time proving it as the law states they'll have to. My point is Fleetguard isn't the only decent fuel filter provider, but it is what's crammed down everyone's throat when they ask.

 

Not only that but none of you have a warranty anyways by looking at the mods.
I am right at 100,000 and running wix filters. Run them on the race car as well.

 

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There is the link to the TSB. There is a huge difference in 50% filtration and 98.7%... beside the fact that WIX will not verify that their filter is a f/w sep. It doesn't list it being on like it does on other filters, and customer service will not answer the question.

Wix builds a quality filter, I have never said they don't, but they do not meet the OE filtering requirements.

Run Wix if you want (I have run them on many of my rigs), but now that I know the specs I won't run them for a fuel filter.

 

Yeah, I went through all that a long time ago, that's why Baldwin/Hastings is so nice; very knowledgeable tech support.

 

Yes.. .just have to be careful with baldwin, they have started using multipass ratings for fuel filters. There equivalent of the FF5320, 1R0750 is a 7 micron single pass, but they call it a 5 microns from there multipass. Thou I still have 2 baldwin filters on my truck.. it took a bit of prodding but I got the single pass ratings from them.

 

I emailed WIX directly to ask about the 33585 fuel filter for Dodge Trucks. They clearly stated that the filter is a water separator. Quote "WIX part number 33585 contains special filtration media and is indeed a fuel/water separator. Any statement to the contrary is not true."

 

Wow.. your the first person of 3 or 4 I know to get a specific answer. Can you ask them the ratings?

 

Which filter is a water separator the 33585 or the 33585XE? Like ah64id said your the first person of at least 8-10 that I know about who asked Wix and have never receive an answer to Email request asking if the 33585 will take care of water. Being they are now saying it does take care of water ( yet in the last year no word from them) I wonder if the older one take care of water or just the newest ones they make?

 

Yeah, they'll give nominal only, you know that.

 

For filtration yes, but what about water separation specs?

 

In my email I asked if they could share any technical specs to back it up. They only told me that the 33585 is indeed a water separator. The 33585XE is just a higher efficiency version, 7 micorn instead of 10 micron. I've always used WIX filters on my truck, and only once had the water separator light come on, thats in 70K miles operation. Just a quick drain, light went out, and hasn't reappeared since.

 

Did the email say the XE just a higher efficiency version or is it your words? Did they give the dirt holding capacity so we can see if it meet spec? Do you still have the email from them if so could you post it?