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Old 09-08-2006 | 02:39 PM
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What to do to '06?

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I have my new 2006 Laramie 4x4. Just traded up from a 2002 Sport 2wd. I had my little list of things I wanted to do to the 2002 (better lift pump, injectors, some other minor things) but hadn't been paying attention to the newer trucks. Now that I have one, I don't know what little things need attention on the '06 trucks. Any suggestions?

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Old 09-09-2006 | 07:54 PM
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I think it depends on what you want out of it. First mod should be some gauges (EGT, boost, tranny) and than maybe a programmer such as Edge EZ or BullyDog. You may want to add an intake such as AFE or a BHAF. The possibilities with these trucks are endless. Good luck.
Old 09-09-2006 | 10:06 PM
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IF you care about your warranty leave it alone, if you don't the skies the limit.
Old 09-10-2006 | 09:36 AM
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Warranty is a delicate issue, but if you modify in moderation and keep the evidence of doing so at a minimum....you can still play. The reason I never go with gauges is it doesn't take a genius at the dealer to see a set of guages and KNOW you've been playing, and it's not as simple as unplugging a box to hide them. After that it's all up to his attitude, and I'm not down with that. But no gauges means keep your power mods at reasonable levels.

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Old 09-10-2006 | 11:19 AM
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First, what things need "fixing" on a 2006? The 2002 needed a better lift pump, for example. Anything like that on a newer truck?

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Old 09-10-2006 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by billindenver
Warranty is a delicate issue, but if you modify in moderation and keep the evidence of doing so at a minimum....you can still play. The reason I never go with gauges is it doesn't take a genius at the dealer to see a set of guages and KNOW you've been playing, and it's not as simple as unplugging a box to hide them. After that it's all up to his attitude, and I'm not down with that. But no gauges means keep your power mods at reasonable levels.

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I'm way to scared to mod my truck without gauges. IMO I think it is a BIG mistake to mod and not put gauges on

with my 01 I could make the EGT's climb FAST with just an edge EZ (65hp)

I'm not modding my new truck but I miss knowing what my EGT's are so I'm getting gauges for peace of mind but no Box/programmers

Gauges don't void warranty's but boxes and programmers do!
They still would have to prove in some way that you have a Box/Programmer

I would hate to void a new truck warranty they still have there fair share of issues, and paying for a dropped injector or CP3 or lift pump would REALLY suck!

but when the warranty's up let the bombing begin

It's still a fence walk either way.

BTW I asked my dealer about a cold air intake they told me they have been having turbo dusting problems with them, because they let so much air AND dust in.
I think it was just a scare tactic


just my .02

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Old 09-10-2006 | 11:37 AM
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A good way to go would be a box/programmer that has integrated gauges(Edge Juice W/attitude, Bully Dog W/outlook, Banks W/power PDA, Quadzilla, etc) That way, if you need to take it to the dearler, they can be unplugged and removed. But intake & exhaust mods are a must before adding any box!
Old 09-10-2006 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 53 ******

BTW I asked my dealer about a cold air intake they told me they have been having turbo dusting problems with them, because they let so much air AND dust in.
I think it was just a scare tactic


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I don't think it's a scare tactic-I have a close buddy who is a long-time dealer tech, and he has told me several times to be careful about aftermarket filters for that very reason. A lot of them DO let in too much dirt-I've seen the evidence myself a few times by wiping my finger inside someone's air inlet tube after the "filter".
Old 09-10-2006 | 10:40 PM
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You have a new truck, with a good warranty, and a lot better capability than the older units, so my first suggestion is to put some good 5-year adhesive on the hood, slam it shut and leave it alone. I fully support warranties being voided for modifications to engine and driveline components.

I suppose my perspective is different than others here. First, I don't have money to just throw around at my truck. Your Bosch Comon-Rail fuel system is intended to operate at the specified rate (around 25,000 psi) that is was designed for. Did you read the pressure? if something on a modified truck screws up and that common-rail system opens (fails) past the high pressure pump, it'll not only hydraullically cut through your hood, but it could even cut through you as well.

The rest of your driveline is not designed for higher hp and torque then the engine produces "stock." Not satisfied with 325 bhp and 610 ft-lbs? Then don't count on your hew $40k truck having a warranty left, either. As a component reseach engineer, I see daily what "happens" when machines are overloaded - granted well beyond what most consumers will ever do. However, let's just say, companies spend millions trying to protect you - the end user, from what really could happen. Please just give this some thought...

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Old 09-10-2006 | 10:59 PM
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Your post interested me...

I have a new 2006 and have been contemplating mods to it, but whatever I do has to absolutely rock solid in addition to having all the "background" companents taken care of as well to handle any additional power (tranny/driveshaft/etc).

It is for this very reason that I am attracted to the Banks systems. It seems to be safe/sane power increases.

Given that if the mod was not responsible for the failure to be warrantied then warranty will cover it, what are your thoughts on doing modest mods in a prudent fashion?

Thanks in advance for the thoughts...



Originally Posted by 96_12V
You have a new truck, with a good warranty, and a lot better capability than the older units, so my first suggestion is to put some good 5-year adhesive on the hood, slam it shut and leave it alone. I fully support warranties being voided for modifications to engine and driveline components.

I suppose my perspective is different than others here. First, I don't have money to just throw around at my truck. Your Bosch Comon-Rail fuel system is intended to operate at the specified rate (around 25,000 psi) that is was designed for. Did you read the pressure? if something on a modified truck screws up and that common-rail system opens (fails) past the high pressure pump, it'll not only hydraullically cut through your hood, but it could even cut through you as well.

The rest of your driveline is not designed for higher hp and torque then the engine produces "stock." Not satisfied with 325 bhp and 610 ft-lbs? Then don't count on your hew $40k truck having a warranty left, either. As a component reseach engineer, I see daily what "happens" when machines are overloaded - granted well beyond what most consumers will ever do. However, let's just say, companies spend millions trying to protect you - the end user, from what really could happen. Please just give this some thought...

Thanks
Old 09-11-2006 | 12:43 AM
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I basically agree with the others, that if you play........you pay.


I have had my truck for just over 2 years and 48,500 miles or so. My money is limited and making my truck unreliable is not an option. Therefore, I have tried to spend my money in areas that will not effect or only have minimal effect on my warranty.

--Gauges shouldn't effect warranty at all. (I have DiPricol EGT, Boost, Trans temp, and FP gauges)

--AFE Stage 2 air intake which according to my Blackstone Laboratories Oil Analysis reports it is cleaner than my stock air box/filter.


--I am also running a Magnaflow straight thru style 4'' (30''long) Muffler.

--I have added capacity to my Transmission fluid and Rear Differential fluid with Mag-Hytec products.

--I replaced the stock (junk) shocks with Rancho 9000 Adjustables.

The other stuff like tires, Ranch Hand front end, etc....is more exterior in nature and shouldn't really effect warranty to any great degree. As my money situation improves and my warranty fades away.....I will be getting transmission upgrades, Fuel Pump upgrades, etc. and then start the Bombing.

My point is...........There is alot you can do to your truck without really "Bombing" it. Why not do that stuff first....let the truck get a few miles under it's belt........then let the BOMBING begin.
Old 09-11-2006 | 10:09 AM
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I didn't mean to go and get everyone riled up about bombing and warranties. I should have been more clear in my first post. I'm just interested in what faults the 2006 trucks have that can be cleaned up without voiding warranties. The 2002 needed a better lift pump and there were a couple of other small things like that. I was just wondering if there is anything along those lines on my 2006. I don't think I'm going to consider an K&N for this truck or even a BHAF. I'm going to keep it pretty stock for a while.

Tad
Old 09-11-2006 | 12:22 PM
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There is nothing on these new trucks that need improvement to handle what DC gave in HP/TQ.

Some will try and sell you things for whatever their reason but as far as I know nothing is needed if truck is left in stock form. before someone starts bantering remember were talking 06 truck here guys.
Old 09-11-2006 | 02:10 PM
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Tad,

Bluebull is probably right. Unless you are having some sort of problem (hard start etc.) and you plan to keep it stock.........then just drive it and enjoy it and do the maintenance.

BTW, we have a North Texas DTR club if you want to come some time. Our next get together is in Houston, Oct. 13/14/15 for the DHRA event at Baytown. You are welcome to come if you want....or catch us next time at a local meet. You can PM me or Crobtex (president) if you want more info or just read our threads in the national/chapter event section forum. Good luck with your truck!
Old 09-11-2006 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 96_12V
You have a new truck, with a good warranty, and a lot better capability than the older units, so my first suggestion is to put some good 5-year adhesive on the hood, slam it shut and leave it alone. I fully support warranties being voided for modifications to engine and driveline components.

I suppose my perspective is different than others here. First, I don't have money to just throw around at my truck. Your Bosch Comon-Rail fuel system is intended to operate at the specified rate (around 25,000 psi) that is was designed for. Did you read the pressure? if something on a modified truck screws up and that common-rail system opens (fails) past the high pressure pump, it'll not only hydraullically cut through your hood, but it could even cut through you as well.

The rest of your driveline is not designed for higher hp and torque then the engine produces "stock." Not satisfied with 325 bhp and 610 ft-lbs? Then don't count on your hew $40k truck having a warranty left, either. As a component reseach engineer, I see daily what "happens" when machines are overloaded - granted well beyond what most consumers will ever do. However, let's just say, companies spend millions trying to protect you - the end user, from what really could happen. Please just give this some thought...

Thanks
The high-pressure fuel won't cut through anything without an abrasive media in suspension.



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