what causes white smoke
#1
what causes white smoke
Living here in Michigan, as the temps start to drop, I've noticed that on a cold start up (after truck has sit for 6 or more hours) I get some white smoke. It doesn't happen immediately after start-up, but maybe like 10 sec later and then will smoke for 30sec. - 1 min. then stop. Is this normal and why does it happen?
#2
I have that happening too. The white smoke is simply unburnt diesel. The reason that it happens very shortly after startup and not immediately and then goes away, is that diesel is burnt under temp/pressure. At startup the there is a preheating that is done and cylinder temperatures are higher than a few seconds after startup. The temperture then raises and the white disappears. There is a TSB out I think it is TSB 18-037-04 that comments on a fix for this partially. Hope this helps a little.
#7
Originally posted by grandblanc
I had the latest TSB done a few weeks ago. Started to notice the smoke after. I don't have anything to compair to before because fall temps have just started to roll in.
I had the latest TSB done a few weeks ago. Started to notice the smoke after. I don't have anything to compair to before because fall temps have just started to roll in.
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#8
I have asked this question to others before and everyone states that it is unburned diesel fuel, but in my mind it simply doesn't make sense. Unburned fuel is black smoke, not white. White smoke, if it lingers around is anti-freese(ethelene glycol) or water vapor. Usually smell can identify the difference. White/blue smoke is lube oil. Now, back to the original question. I think the white smoke people are observing is a thermal issue caused by late injector timing creating water condensation in the exhaust. This condition goes away once the engine temperature rises and the dew point is no longer being crossed by the air mass. Futhermore, the TSB that seems to help this probably advances the injector timing a bit because it also seems to help mileage. Now, if I have this wrong, I hope somebody straigtens me out.
#9
partially burned diesel is black the hydrogen was burned but the carbon was not white smoke is fully atomized completly unburned diesel more likely your seeing "smoke" that is actually water vapor caused by the heat of the exhaust system like on gasoline powered vechiles like a con trail on planes.
#10
Originally posted by stevenknapp
How much do you have? Before the TSB on a cold morning it would be like a fog rolling over my truck. Now there is none unless I look back there in the mirror..even then there isn't much.
How much do you have? Before the TSB on a cold morning it would be like a fog rolling over my truck. Now there is none unless I look back there in the mirror..even then there isn't much.
#12
Hey OUT OF HERE did the dealer give you the same sob story about those cab plugs ?? I spoke with DC customer service and he told me to purchase them and they will reimburse me . Dealers are supposed to install them after transport he told me . Oh well was nice meeting a fellow member and sharp ride you got there .
#13
Wasted trip
Originally posted by Mixer Man
Hey OUT OF HERE did the dealer give you the same sob story about those cab plugs ?? I spoke with DC customer service and he told me to purchase them and they will reimburse me . Dealers are supposed to install them after transport he told me . Oh well was nice meeting a fellow member and sharp ride you got there .
Hey OUT OF HERE did the dealer give you the same sob story about those cab plugs ?? I spoke with DC customer service and he told me to purchase them and they will reimburse me . Dealers are supposed to install them after transport he told me . Oh well was nice meeting a fellow member and sharp ride you got there .
#14
White smoke is unburned hydrocarbons. Combustion did take place, but not at a sufficient temperature to burn all of the hydrocarbons to Carbon Monoxide and water.
It can also be condensation as suggested earlier. There is a difference, but its hard to tell. Condensation tends to dissipate into the air faster, where white smoke with "hang" in the air for awhile before dissipating.
It can be addressed with calibration adjustments (which is part of the TSB).
The service calibration was optimized for fuel economy, as FE is the biggest complaint now on the 600/610 trucks.
It can also be condensation as suggested earlier. There is a difference, but its hard to tell. Condensation tends to dissipate into the air faster, where white smoke with "hang" in the air for awhile before dissipating.
It can be addressed with calibration adjustments (which is part of the TSB).
The service calibration was optimized for fuel economy, as FE is the biggest complaint now on the 600/610 trucks.
#15
Originally posted by Steve-l
Unburned fuel is black smoke, not white.
Unburned fuel is black smoke, not white.
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