Well I'm glad your Hondas are great but their not rated the longest in durabilty of the BIG three Jap makes.Just a fact.I have also driven Chevys to the 250k mark without a lot of repairs also.Fact is If the Jap cars were perferct the repair shops for them would'nt be busy.They are just as busy doing TSB's,reflashes,updates and general repair as the domistic shops are.They actualy have vibration issues and drones also.

 

we have a 2000 chevy camaro (v-6) still runs like a top 170,000+ no work to motor,trans,or rearend. very happy (drives like it has 30,000)

 

I had a 99 Taurus had nothing but brake problems over and over. I babied that thing.., when it got to 160,000 kilometres , all highway, it was falling to pieces. By the way N.A.D.P. can rebuild the tranny inn the dodge and make it indestrucible for $1800.00 CDN. They race them and everything, no need for a standard shift these days, lots of people swear by them up here. Anyway $10,000 is completely ridiculous.., service guy that told you that must have spent the first part of his working life selling vacumn cleaners!

 

Sorry to hear that the dealer ruined your transmission. It's even worse that you can not prove it. The dip stick says DO NOT OVERFILL. I had a local lube shop service the transmission in my Jeep Cherokee a few years ago. Glad I checked it when I got home (2 miles away). It was 2 quarts low. I drove it back and asked if they could finish the job. Boy did he panic. Now, if someone besides me services my tranny, I always check it when I get home.

Too bad you have experienced an expensive mess, but you new one will be a far better unit. Have you tried telling your story to the service manager and/or general manager?

As for the import vs domestic bickering...from my personal experience, Honda has greatly improved their powertrains in the 90's. Before that, they were crap past 80K. Nissan has always had the longest lasting powertrains. Domestic cars are greatly improved since the last decade. Once in a while there is an exception. Take my dad's '86 Buick Riviera. It has 450K on it. The first motor went at 250K and the AT crapped out at 300K. The interior is pretty much shot, but it still runs "like a clock." I just replaced the ball joints, tie rod ends, and drive axels for the very first time. Les Schwab replaced one of the inner tie rods, the other did not need replaced. Anyway, the outter tie rods and ball joints were still in pretty good shape. Now days there are some domestics that are better than some imports and visa versa. Chances are though, you are taking less risk buying an import (in terms of an automobile for long term reliability).

 

You canalways tell when someone really gets ticked on a forum.They start correcting spelling.Never said I was a good speller and I type one/two fingers real fast.Point was there is good and bad designs put out by all the manufactures.Hondas are great cars.Some model Hondas were better then others.A friend of mine recently has had a big Toyota problem in the suv model thats based on the Cambry.Engine SLUDGE.Bad enough that it smoke terribly on startup and used a qt.of oil every 500 miles or so.Low mileage,under 50k.Toyota dealer INSISTED lack of oil changes as I thought also.He claimed they were BY the BOOK.He traded it in at another dealer.Since then that Toyota model as well as other autos by differant manufactures have been found out to break down oil due to high cyl.head heat very quickly.Even MB went through this and lost a class action law suit.Now on these models they say change oil every 3k or so not every 7500.But my friend kast year went around with Toyota for several weeks and was told it was HIS fault.Now its known it wasnt.

 

Yes, especially when people yell a lot. Pet peeve of mine.

I suppose we could all chime in with our favorite stories about how this lasted or that didn't.

I think the bottom line for me past personal experience is that every major auto maker in the book has at one time or another chased the Japanese, specifically Toyota, for quality. Latest two issues of the TDR quarterly are good starting points for that.

Another thing to consider is that nothing is inexpensive to repair these days.....

Good day.

Matt

 

With all due respect, coming to the conclusion that someone is "ticked" when they correct your spelling mistakes is rather misguided. Whatever lucid point(s) you may (or may not) have, the liberties you so proudly take with your grammar leave most people not taking you very seriously. Now, go ahead and flame me as you will, but have the courtesy to spell the post correctly. Remember to put a space after a period or comma, that proof-reading is a good idea, and canalways are for boats.

 

Actualy its 2 spacers after them periods!!!

sorry couldn't help it... little internet humor

 

JMAC- that would be 2 strikes for you... Actually has 2 L's.

 

 

U GUYZ R TUE MUNCH FITE-N
BOUT DEM FANCYY SPELENS !

 

I know I meant to mizpelll it and use impropr gramma
I guess it wasn't that funny...I'll log off now

btw where's my first strike?

 

Get a grip- for the most part if you take care of something it will last (regardless of its origin)!!

 

Well you can correct spelling.Your good at that.But I KNOW auto's and the trade better then most.My Neuro surgeon could'nt spell eaither but I didn't correct him about his trade!