So what is this going to cost me?
02-28-2013 | 04:18 PM
#31
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Those gears look awesome! Run 'em!
As far as a pinion seal goes, easy as pie. in fact it was a 2 beer job on my '03 one ton dually.
1- drop the driveline, get a big 3/4 drive impact wrench and proper deep socket.
2- Rattle off the nut and using a small 6oz hammer, tap the yoke off,
3- Using a screwdriver, lever the old seal out and wipe the housing with a paper towel and solvent.
4- smear some RTV silicone sealer with your finger on the seal circumference and using a socket that fits the seal face, tap it in with a little bigger hammer gently and evenly.
5- smear some wheel bearing grease on the splines and slide the yoke back on, tap a few times and that'll seat it pretty well.
6- Install nut and rattle down to tight or torque it to the spec, whichever you're good with.
7- Reset driveline and tighten the bolts, done deal...
easy
took me about an hour to do it all together.
As far as a pinion seal goes, easy as pie. in fact it was a 2 beer job on my '03 one ton dually.
1- drop the driveline, get a big 3/4 drive impact wrench and proper deep socket.
2- Rattle off the nut and using a small 6oz hammer, tap the yoke off,
3- Using a screwdriver, lever the old seal out and wipe the housing with a paper towel and solvent.
4- smear some RTV silicone sealer with your finger on the seal circumference and using a socket that fits the seal face, tap it in with a little bigger hammer gently and evenly.
5- smear some wheel bearing grease on the splines and slide the yoke back on, tap a few times and that'll seat it pretty well.
6- Install nut and rattle down to tight or torque it to the spec, whichever you're good with.
7- Reset driveline and tighten the bolts, done deal...
easy
took me about an hour to do it all together.
I did mine this summer and it was very easy - and I've never done something like that before.
02-28-2013 | 04:51 PM
#32
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I didn't see this mentioned, but check to make sure your axle breather tube isn't clogged, this can cause seals to blow as there's nowhere for heat pressure to go.. Otherwise if the breather is good, then it's a fluke as to why your seal went..
02-28-2013 | 05:19 PM
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Marty just called, the truck is ready. To cover my bases I asked him flat out why the teeth would contact each other like that. He said maybe some dirt or debris got in there and got crunched up. I asked if the slack in the drivetrain was appropriate and he said it was acceptable/normal and definitely not excessive. I asked if the contact patch on the R&P was correct, he said it is and looks great. He said the test drive was great, no abnormal vibration. He said "Well you know how the truck drives and feels better than we do but if just feel like it's probably the tires".
So, soon as I can get ride I can go get the truck.
Dr Dizzle, that front dshaft has always sat in the back of my mind. Can those things be balanced out like the rear shaft? I told arty yesterday that I have had a vibration and I have suspected the front driveshaft. But he didn't go into that part other than to say "Well we will test drive it to see how it feels". And they have done that.
Will see how the truck feels. I'm not expecting it will be different than before it went in.
So, soon as I can get ride I can go get the truck.
Dr Dizzle, that front dshaft has always sat in the back of my mind. Can those things be balanced out like the rear shaft? I told arty yesterday that I have had a vibration and I have suspected the front driveshaft. But he didn't go into that part other than to say "Well we will test drive it to see how it feels". And they have done that.
Will see how the truck feels. I'm not expecting it will be different than before it went in.
http://www.balancemasters.com/driveshafts/index.html
03-01-2013 | 10:19 AM
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I'll pick up the truck tomorrow. I'm bribing a friend with lunch if she'll give me a ride.
This flashed through my mind. I will double check the vent tube and make certain it isn't clogged up.
A couple days back after leaving the truck I did more googling for leaky pinion seal. It seems that it is common for ours to fail in the 50-70k range, many in the 60s. That made me feel a little bit better that the seal was likely crapping out on cue.
I haven't ever removed the shaft. The only maintenance I've done is to regularly grease the hidden zerk (I use a needle to get in there).
Those things look interesting. Wonder if they work?
A couple days back after leaving the truck I did more googling for leaky pinion seal. It seems that it is common for ours to fail in the 50-70k range, many in the 60s. That made me feel a little bit better that the seal was likely crapping out on cue.
Shorts, if you ever want to play with the balance here's a suggestion.
http://www.balancemasters.com/driveshafts/index.html
http://www.balancemasters.com/driveshafts/index.html
03-01-2013 | 10:56 AM
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Shorts
Leaky pinion seals are very common on the third gen trucks. Our company trucks have had them replaced at least once. We were using the local Dodge dealer to replace them but we were finding that they would fail again soon after. We grew tired of the back and forth with the Dealer and eventually found a good drive line shop that does things right the first time and addresses our concerns rather than ignoring them.
Finding a good differential/drive line repair shop can be harder than just finding someone who is honest and who truly cares about doing the job right. They must also be competent. When it comes to differentials, most mechanics, dealerships included, do not like to work on them as differentials tend be more of an art. I recommend trying to find someone at, or through, a four wheel drive shop. Many diesel truck repair shops may also be able to recommend a good shop as they often sub this type of work out. Yes! The front shaft can be balanced.
Leaky pinion seals are very common on the third gen trucks. Our company trucks have had them replaced at least once. We were using the local Dodge dealer to replace them but we were finding that they would fail again soon after. We grew tired of the back and forth with the Dealer and eventually found a good drive line shop that does things right the first time and addresses our concerns rather than ignoring them.
Finding a good differential/drive line repair shop can be harder than just finding someone who is honest and who truly cares about doing the job right. They must also be competent. When it comes to differentials, most mechanics, dealerships included, do not like to work on them as differentials tend be more of an art. I recommend trying to find someone at, or through, a four wheel drive shop. Many diesel truck repair shops may also be able to recommend a good shop as they often sub this type of work out. Yes! The front shaft can be balanced.
03-01-2013 | 11:03 AM
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Thanks Dr D. I wondered if I should start looking for a driveline shop for future use. I'll go ahead and do that while the truck is still running.
04-28-2013 | 11:22 AM
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Shorts, I serviced both my diffs yesterday and the front one had wear marks identical to yours on the pinion gear. No chips or scar lines on the ring gear.
Guess that is normal on these diffs.
Guess that is normal on these diffs.
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