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Old 12-28-2010 | 11:25 AM
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Rings burnts up...advise

So the truck is burning lots and lots of oil and after talking to a couple mechanics they all have landed at the assumption that the rings and possibly other things in my motor are burned up and Edit. Were thinking about pulling the motor and taking it apart. Anybody have any advice on the subject or heard of this kind of problem before?

PS: Here's why the engine is messed up. When I was 16 I thought it'd be cool to put water methanol on my truck because some Edit told me it was like "NOS for diesel" which is obviously stupid but when you're 16 and everything sounds awesome to you, you make some mistakes. Anyways long story short when you let people look inside your truck and you have switches and ***** that don't need to be flipped while the truck is turned off....stand next to that person and make sure THEY DON'T FLIP THE EDIT WATER/METHANOL SWITCH and fill your motor with 2 quarts of fluid without you knowing.

This is what happened to mine and that is why I'm in this predicament. So if anybody else has had there engine filled up with water/meth while turned off and then started please let me know how it turned out for you. Thanks
Old 12-28-2010 | 11:39 AM
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Not sure quite what you are looking for in addressing the question.

Sure, there have been a lot of rebuilt engines from eating too much oil. When you get water into your oil, a lot of things will go quick, not just rings. Bearings, (mains, rods and turbo) tend to go first. Valve guides and piston scoring are next... the list goes on.

Sorry for your troubles, but it sounds like a full rebuild is in order. From what you described with your water meth, it sounds like you are very lucky to have not hydro-locked.

Take it to someone who is experienced in performance diesel to help you out.
Old 12-28-2010 | 11:50 AM
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Sorry I guess a question to what I posted is "has this happened to anybody else" and if it has what was the outcome and diagnosis?

Also, the truck is still running strong and fine it's just burning a lot of oil. Is it really necessary to rebuild the entire motor?
Old 12-28-2010 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by gecoveyc
Sorry I guess a question to what I posted is "has this happened to anybody else" and if it has what was the outcome and diagnosis?

Also, the truck is still running strong and fine it's just burning a lot of oil. Is it really necessary to rebuild the entire motor?
You will not know until you have the engine opened up to know what it needs.

Why did you not put the water injection switch on a switched hot wire?
Old 12-28-2010 | 02:37 PM
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You will not know until you have the engine opened up to know what it needs.

Why did you not put the water injection switch on a switched hot wire?
Because Snow Water Methanol decided it would be a good idea to include an installation sheet that was worthless and didn't tell you how to install or wire up any part of their kit and I had to figure it all out myself.
Old 12-28-2010 | 03:02 PM
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You may get lucky and not have internal damage at all. I'd start with making sure your motor was breathing properly. I've seen many old smoky motors thought to need a complete rebuild get fixed with putting the CORRECT $5 PCV Valve in them That tells me that a stopped up crankcase will suck oil right into the cylinders.
Old 12-28-2010 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 1-2-3
You may get lucky and not have internal damage at all. I'd start with making sure your motor was breathing properly. I've seen many old smoky motors thought to need a complete rebuild get fixed with putting the CORRECT $5 PCV Valve in them That tells me that a stopped up crankcase will suck oil right into the cylinders.
possible, but highly improbable
Old 12-28-2010 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 1-2-3
You may get lucky and not have internal damage at all. I'd start with making sure your motor was breathing properly. I've seen many old smoky motors thought to need a complete rebuild get fixed with putting the CORRECT $5 PCV Valve in them That tells me that a stopped up crankcase will suck oil right into the cylinders.
Haha I will definitely try a $5 fix before I pull my motor. What is the PCV valve you speak of? It's been 5 years since I had to do anything pertaining to the intake of the truck other than cleaning the air filter. Gotta refresh my memory
Old 12-28-2010 | 08:24 PM
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Didnt know the 5.9L had a PCV valve...
But, I WOULD pull the intercooler piping and verify that its not drinking the oil thru a faulty turbocharger seal..
I have personally witnessed extremely dirty air filters causing turbocharger seal and shaft failures..
Old 12-29-2010 | 09:02 AM
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I guess I have forgotten to mention that the truck is running fine and the water/meth incident happened back in June. I still drive it everyday. It makes no noises or shows any signs of anything being wrong. The truck sat for 2 months after it happened because the tranny went out at the drags. When I finally got the tranny rebuilt and put back in 2 months later I took it to Lubbock and when I got down there and to a stop sign my oil pressure gauge went to 0. Long story short it was 7 quarts low on oil for some reason. (Oil had just been changed about a month before it broke down so it barely had any miles on it). Then about a week or two later it was about 3 quarts low.

Finally I over filled it about 2 quarts and it seems to have fixed the problem. I dunno if it reseated the rings or knocked them loose or whatever the proper terminology is but I checked the oil in it last night and its still a quart or two over full and hasn't burned any in over 2 weeks.

There is no abnormal blowby, leaks, oil in the exhaust or anything. I'm not saying the problem is solved by anymeans but it seems to have at least slowed down or stopped for the time being. The only thing I have yet to check is the boost tubes which I need to do today if I get a chance.
Old 12-29-2010 | 10:05 AM
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There is no PCV Valve on these. I just used that as an example to show the engine block itself needs to breath or you can get some odd issues. All engines need to breath and be vented. One small dirt dobber nest in the right spot can make a difference. A turbo seal is also a very good place to look for oil consumption. And an easy one to find as there will be an oil film on the intake tubes and inside the inter cooler.
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