Pros and cons of Biodiesel
#1
Pros and cons of Biodiesel
I've recently discovered that at station near me is selling B20 (not sure if it's actually on a pump), and I've been thinking about giving it a whirl. I'd like to know the pros and cons of running it mixed, or a full tank.
Do I have to worry about lubricity (i.e. using an additive), what does Cummins think of it, etc.? Any words of wisdom?
Do I have to worry about lubricity (i.e. using an additive), what does Cummins think of it, etc.? Any words of wisdom?
#2
Lots of reading on that one here on this site. My conclusion is that I will run B20 and not look back, once I can get my hands on it.
IMHO:
Pro's - better lubricity and it's NOT coming from the Middle East.
Con's - local availability.
Matt
IMHO:
Pro's - better lubricity and it's NOT coming from the Middle East.
Con's - local availability.
Matt
#3
Originally posted by gsdog1
Lots of reading on that one here on this site. My conclusion is that I will run B20 and not look back, once I can get my hands on it.
IMHO:
Pro's - better lubricity and it's NOT coming from the Middle East.
Con's - local availability.
Matt
Lots of reading on that one here on this site. My conclusion is that I will run B20 and not look back, once I can get my hands on it.
IMHO:
Pro's - better lubricity and it's NOT coming from the Middle East.
Con's - local availability.
Matt
Anyone else with any input for good or bad? I think I'm going to fire off an email to Cummins and see how badly they'll berate me if I give it a whirl.
#4
do a search in the "general diesel" section. it has been covered at length. I just recently started running B20. I buy B100, and add 5 gallons of BIO, and 20 gallons of diesel.
As far as it being a lubricant, YES IT IS. they say even a mix of B03 more than doubles the lubbicating factor of straight deisel.
Dodge and, or Cummins says a mix up to B05 is perfectly safe to run in our trucks. They stopped at that limit because they have not done any extensive testing with this fuel. to cover thier backs. the guy i get it from has a PSD, and has been running B100 since new. almost 50,000 miles. The only problem he had is that B100 has a jell point of about 20 degrees. He had his truck freeze up on him , he now cuts it with Kero in the winter.
You will notice it run quieter with the BIO in there. At B20 there is no performance drop off and MPG seems to be the same. I did run it strong 1 time, maybe B75, and it did seem a litttle(verry little) slugish.
This is the way off the future(i hope) , and any conventional diesel enginbe can run it. If you do decide to run it, you will want to do a fuel filter change after a couple of tank fulls. The BIO will clean out the system, and all that dirt will be in yer filter.
I am no expert, and i`m sure this thread will get better responces than mine. Lets keep our $$ here, and help the American farmer out as well.
As far as it being a lubricant, YES IT IS. they say even a mix of B03 more than doubles the lubbicating factor of straight deisel.
Dodge and, or Cummins says a mix up to B05 is perfectly safe to run in our trucks. They stopped at that limit because they have not done any extensive testing with this fuel. to cover thier backs. the guy i get it from has a PSD, and has been running B100 since new. almost 50,000 miles. The only problem he had is that B100 has a jell point of about 20 degrees. He had his truck freeze up on him , he now cuts it with Kero in the winter.
You will notice it run quieter with the BIO in there. At B20 there is no performance drop off and MPG seems to be the same. I did run it strong 1 time, maybe B75, and it did seem a litttle(verry little) slugish.
This is the way off the future(i hope) , and any conventional diesel enginbe can run it. If you do decide to run it, you will want to do a fuel filter change after a couple of tank fulls. The BIO will clean out the system, and all that dirt will be in yer filter.
I am no expert, and i`m sure this thread will get better responces than mine. Lets keep our $$ here, and help the American farmer out as well.
#6
LinearX, I've run b20 since 2001 with zero problems , and even ran b100 in my TDI for 35,000 miles straight. Do not fear b20, you are so lucky to live near it. It's good down to about 0F or so, if you live in a colder climate, add some antigel additives. As mentioned above, biodiesel has many many times the lubricity of regular diesel. Plenty of folks just add 2% instead of a fuel additive. Biodiesel also has a much higher average cetane, so it will boost your overall mix as well. Enjoy burning the bean, and supporting the american economy while doing it!
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#8
Mark, its Biodiesel.org. there will be a map of all the retailers in the US. As for whats B20, B75...thats the percentage of Bio to Diesel. B20= 5 gallons BIO to 20 gallons Diesel.
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#10
Originally posted by Lightman
LinearX, I've run b20 since 2001 with zero problems , and even ran b100 in my TDI for 35,000 miles straight. Do not fear b20, you are so lucky to live near it. It's good down to about 0F or so, if you live in a colder climate, add some antigel additives. As mentioned above, biodiesel has many many times the lubricity of regular diesel. Plenty of folks just add 2% instead of a fuel additive. Biodiesel also has a much higher average cetane, so it will boost your overall mix as well. Enjoy burning the bean, and supporting the american economy while doing it!
LinearX, I've run b20 since 2001 with zero problems , and even ran b100 in my TDI for 35,000 miles straight. Do not fear b20, you are so lucky to live near it. It's good down to about 0F or so, if you live in a colder climate, add some antigel additives. As mentioned above, biodiesel has many many times the lubricity of regular diesel. Plenty of folks just add 2% instead of a fuel additive. Biodiesel also has a much higher average cetane, so it will boost your overall mix as well. Enjoy burning the bean, and supporting the american economy while doing it!
I think I may go give it a whirl after I'm done with this tank of fuel. Thanks for all of the responses, guys.
#12
What kind of price are you guys paying for bio diesel? I'm all for keeping the $$ here in the states, & I haul for an oil co. I know of another oil co. in Medford that is dealing in it. The more popular this stuff gets the more available it will be & the price should be more competitive with foriegn oil.
#13
Originally posted by Geico266
Any additive will work.
Any additive will work.