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Old 09-27-2005 | 02:49 AM
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Yeah Im 24 and my truck is paid in full by me. I don't like getting lumped into any stereotypes thank you very much. I wanted a dodge ram since I was 13. I bought my manual diesel for several reasons, one of which will be to tow my jeep around. I haul my quad around. I haul dirt and wood for my parents and am now the guy to call when stuff needs moved. I bought the diesel knowing full well what that entailed. I did not buy my truck to impress anyone (although it is fun to educate and surprise people with "just" a 6 cylinder and what it can do, dont get me wrong its pride I feel not pompous) or keep up with any joneses. I bought my truck cause it fit my needs and wants the best out of any other vehicle. I bought a diesel for power and longevity. Heck I skipped out on the "faster" auto cause I wanted reliability and strength and full control (not to mention saving a couple of bucks). But there is nothing wrong with trying to pick up a little get up and go. Improving get up and go is not wrong. What makes it any differnt from uping the power so you can haul a few more tons? I believe someone else is stuck on the diesel stereotype here. Who says they can only be slow torque monsters? I am witness to the good of diesels now and would love to see more people with them. I disagree with the one person though. If we didnt shoot for improvment, we'd all still be riding horses, not the model T.
But I guess since im stealing diesel and racing around and not hauling 15000lb plus loads all the time i should sell it fo rthe snappier thirstier pep of gasoline huh?

BTW I bet there isnt just the one person reading this thread that shares this stereotype of us young whippersnappers so my response is to everyone. I hope I only conveyed a differnt line of thinking. Also this board wouldnt be the same without the older gents on here either. Lots of good knowledge and wisdom and oldschool tech that still apllies to today.
Ok enough

To baddoggguy. I apologize for being so offtopic but some stuff gets me hot under the collar ( thanks old guys, without you we wouldnt have such niffty colloquialisms either! )
Anyhow, along with the other responses, a power module really does work quite well on these engines as opposed to chips for gas engines which are usually dissappointing (in my experience).
Old 09-27-2005 | 07:26 PM
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If you want to do no mods to your truck and get better response then manually down shift your transmission and take off the o/d. This will allow the motor rev faster and put more power to the ground. Hence why drag cars manually shift their autos.

As for the comments on young people. I am 27 years old and bought a Diesel due to the fact that I usually drive long distance's, the fuel economy is better then a gas engine. The truck if needed can and will tow, pull or other wise drag anything within reason out or around. The truck engine will out last a gas one, the list goes on.

The one up ship attitude always happens. no matter what group of people you have or their age. Why does everyone buy chips and do intake mods and stuff. it is to one up the next guy. Even if we justify it by saying it is to tow better. Really it is so that we can tow that ever larger and heavier trailer fifth wheel or what ever. Really to make a comment that only young people buy these trucks and do not use them for the proper reason. Shows a lack of maturity and worse a understanding of why people do things they do.

Guys, Gals have fun and remember if aint smoking then it isnt a diesel
Old 09-29-2005 | 02:32 PM
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Thanks guys, Im prob. gonna look into that tone ring mod, and the sensor, sounds like a decent improvement for low $$$$. I could see how a converter would help alot, but Im not gonna rip apart a new truck with only 1,900 mi. on it, and prob void the warranty too.

On another note, check out the classifieds...A certan someone has their truck for sale .

Maybe he doesn't "need" it,.... time to trade it in for the Crown Vic.!!!



Well, whatever,.. I'm done with this, thanks to all for the info, would really be great to have some sort of gathering to meet some of you's. I might start a thread to see how many people from the North East are available to get together. Thanks again
Old 10-01-2005 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by coolslice
I guess I fall into this group of 20-30 something "kids" that you seem to be uptight about. It seems you have a pretty big chip on your shoulder and you seem like your jealous that the younger guys can actually afford to buy what they want, maybe you couldn't at that age???...Owning a Dodge CTD is not some exclusive club for over-the-hill old men only... With all due respect, if you're so old and wise, start acting like it...Geeeeezz.


To anwser the original question (if I'm qualified being 29 ) I totally understand where the poster is coming from.. The torque converter in the 48re has too high of a stall IMO.. You need to rev it to nearly 1800 rpms just to get her rolling on level ground.. The first time I pulled my boat up the ramp, I thought something was wrong.. I had to rev it up to about 2500 rpms just to start moving.. Everyone standing around stopped and looked up to see the big torque Cummins nearly hitting redline to get a small boat out of the water.. I felt like an idiot!
hey cool slice dont feel bad im in the same position ,every once in a while i get the same crap im 29 no collage, hs diploma,ex felon ,w/ a ged ,i got a 50000$ truck i make 78000$ a year and a lic contractor in ny w/ my own bussisness but its not good enough for the older gen
Old 10-01-2005 | 08:32 PM
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There are a couple of things that I think contribute to turbo lag (and there torque lag when you're trying to pull out from the stop sign). They are the size of the turbo and the emission controls. The compressor wheel of the newer turbos is noticeably larger than the compressor of the turbos on the older trucks if I remember right. That means it just physically takes more time to spool up the turbo. On the emissions, I seem to recall reading that the newer trucks are programmed to be SUPER dependent on boost for their fueling. In other words, they won't go on and deliver a decent amount of fuel before boost is developed. This prevents big clouds of black smoke, and is probably here to stay, since emission laws never seem to get more lax for new vehicles. The older trucks would go on and deliver a little more fuel than could be burned without smoke, which did two things; gave you more power right then, and produced more exhaust to spool the turbo up quicker. Luckily for me, my 12v is mechanically injected. Increasing pre-boost fueling is a few turns of the starwheel away. I can REALLY pour some smoke out if I just hammer it from low rpm, but I find I can drive to not do that, which is the way I normally drive.

I hope that helped you understand the torque lag the newer trucks have.
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