If you have had an injector failure with a crankcase full of fuel have you had a fire from same? The question came up yesterday when someone asked me about the possability of the truck catchin fire from a failure.

Therefore I am proposing that anyone that has had a major failure of an injector post a complaint on the goverment web site. If this is a big problem that lets let the National Highway Transp[ortation Authority hear about it. Maybe then we can get Daimler Chrysler's attention. My concerns are #1 getting a solution to the (in my case) Injector problem cured and is it a safety issue (fire possability from hot exaust and fuel combination).

If you have had a problem post it to the following web site listing fire as a possible result of the failure.


Web site is : www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

 

let her rip. sounds like a plan.

 

DC couldn't care less. DC still has not recalled all the Durangos and Dakotas with the ball joint problems that result in the wheels departing the vehicle. DC does not want to honor the warranty and certainly will not recall something as expensive as the injection system on hundreds of thousands of trucks.

Given that DC has far more money for lawers that any of thier customers, the best thing is to just move on to something else.

 

On what year is the problem with injuectors and what kind of problems does it cause?

 

Not a huge segnment but on a survey taken (don't know how many respondents there were) about 20% that were with out fuelling boxes had had failures. There was a much higher percentage of problems on trucks with boxes.

Mostly on the 04.5 and up series of trucks. DC has made channges in the injectors mid 05 as there are 2 different injectors, not interchangable per DC on the 05 model trucks. I would guess that the 04.5 have the same as the early 05 models have. I also heard this past week that there was a major design change in injectors coming out soon, whatever soon means, and that there was a change to Stainless steeel (?) he thought. Per my experiance with farm spray nozzels SS is not the best item for longivety but what are the current ones made of? We found that nylon tips lasted longer but heat would destroy them in our applications. How about ceramic or is that the current material and may if so is it too brittle? Just raising questions

As far as not doing anything as it is a waste of time, it's only a waste if you don't have the 5 minutes to do it. My concern and i see no one has answered the original question, is it a fire hazzard and if so it must be a safety issue in my mind.

 

Sorry about not answering the question, and don't mean to hi-jack the thread, but what can you do in 5 minutes to remedy the problem?

Thanks for your answer and patience.

 

If you have had an injector failure with the crankcase full of fuel, then fill out the report form on the NHTSA site and report it as a safety issue. If enough do DC will eventually have to answer the question and either come up with a fix, maybe a recall and/or be held liable to anyone that has a fire or life thereating event from the leak. If no one but me fills out the form then I am just whisteling in the wind.

NO I have not had a fire but was asking the question to see if anyone has had a fire related to this.

Don

 

Being as how they generally start puking diesel fuel out the vent tube also, I don't really see how they could claim that having a small cloud of diesel fuel following you around isn't a safety issue. Something I was wondering the other day, is what does the EPA think about this. If these injectors are dumping all this extra fuel into the motor, they can't be smog compliant anymore can they?

 

Great thought IA James. Go to www.EPA.gov and there is a place to file a noncomplieance form there also. I think as above that if enough people follow through it might become aparent that DC really dosen't care until someone hits them in their pocket book also.

I filed both my complaints, have you done yours yet!

 

donhove I LIKE the way you think!

 

You got a link to that form, I couldn't find it anywhere? It's kinda early though. With any luck, perhaps we've stumbled onto one of the few people with more money than Chrysler to fight stuff. Uncle Sam. I think if they had a bunch of people ratting them out to the EPA and getting their feet held to the fire about how long their vehicles are actually emission compliant, DC might be singing a very different tune.

 

Heres your link for a citizen complaint: This is for the Michigan region but should work for all:

http://www.epa.gov/region5/enforcement/ecitcomp.htm

'Good luck

Guess I'm just tired of spending good hard earned money and getting shafted in the long run and think that anything that can be done to correct it should be done.

Don

 

Curious if some of these trcks with QUESTIONABLE injector issues pass EPA testing?

 

That's what I'm thinking, they can't be smog legal with extra fuel getting shot in there. Mine has gotten to where if I look real close in the mirror (I know, should be watching where I'm going) I can see some black smoke in it. Not the big cloud that the 3rd gens get when cleaning out the pipe, and then disappearing into nothing. Mine looks like a bombed truck when I get on it. Big ol cloud of black, then thins out as boost comes up, then real light trail of black. All the way till I get bored about mid 6th gear. Last time I took it to the dealer, I was told that DC says smoke on start up less than 1 minute is also normal. Wonder what the EPA would think about that?

 

Well if tested and flunked manufacture up to 80k???? I think has to repair unless its a MAINTANCE item.