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View Poll Results: would you like Dodge to offer the cruise control high idle feature for manual trans
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Old 11-15-2005 | 08:10 AM
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Why do you need a high idle? It's cheaper to wear mittens and shut the truck off once in a while. Mine starts just great in the morning buried in snow at -15F without being plugged in. It also doesn't cool down so much after it's hot that a high idle is needed to get the cab warm again. This isn't your grandpa's diesel anymore. Do you just want something else to play with?



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Why do you care?

The trucks come equipped with an automatic high idle if certain conditions are met so Dodge must have thought it was important. Why not allow the end user to determine when it is needed and when it is not??

I'm guessing you're the one that voted no??
Old 11-15-2005 | 08:35 AM
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No, I'm not the one who voted "no". I haven't voted yet. Have you read the TSB for the high idle enable? Cummins did think a high idle was a good thing and that's why my truck revs up to 1000rpm all on its own when it's cold enough without a trip to the dealer.

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Old 11-15-2005 | 08:40 AM
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That TSB doesn't apply to '03 trucks.

My point is, why do you care if folks want to high idle? It's not your truck. It's theirs.

I like the high idle feature that my truck has. I just want to be able to control it myself instead of waiting for the temperatures to drop below 32 degrees. I can do that with my fancy high idling stick, but it would be nice if I could control it with the cruise control buttons like the later trucks allow.
Old 11-15-2005 | 08:50 AM
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I have to say it is quite funny that 3 people voted 'No' and that upsets you guys so much. Is it that important to see everyone fall in line this week?
I myself voted against the high idle using the cruise control as I am happy with the built in high idle feature that my 2003 came with.
Old 11-15-2005 | 09:06 AM
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It doesn't upset me that anyone would vote no. After all, I really don't think the folks at DC are going to care about a poll on DTR. I just don't understand WHY anyone wouldn't want the option. To each their own I suppose, but it doesn't make sense to me. I guess on this one I'd like to have my cake and eat it too.
Old 11-15-2005 | 09:20 AM
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Polls are subjective by their very nature ya know. I realize the TSB doesn't work on the 2003's but high idle can be enabled on the 03/early 04 w/o reflashing the ECM iirc. I imagine it only exists for PTO-driven truck accessories, not to keep your buns warm in the winter.

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Old 11-15-2005 | 10:05 AM
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You're not listening to me. I don't CARE about the poll. I do care about having options though. If you don't, then that's no skin off my back.

When you say that "high idle can be enabled on the 03/early 04", are you talking about a high idle that is user controlled or one that comes on automatically when certain conditions are met?
Old 11-15-2005 | 10:23 AM
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Most people don't think the cruise-control high idle can be used on the 03/04. There was recently a post about it on TDR with the TSB that says it works as well as someone who had it done. I think tomeygun even looked it up and said it was good.

Why do you think it's on automatic transmissions only? Do they need more RPM to keep warm? Are they just special? I rank this up there with the people who want 12v rattle because that's how diesels "should" be.

I just voted, I was vote #3 against the high idle. Maybe I'll start a post about gaudy bull bars so I can be more argumentative. You want options? They gave me the option of shutting the truck down and restarting at -20F, it's called *technology*. Don't take it personally, to each his own.

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Old 11-15-2005 | 10:33 AM
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You are taking this thread WAY too seriously (and personally).

The TSB will not work on my truck. If it did then I would have already had it done. Unlike you, I'd like to have the ability to high idle when I want to without the use of a stick.

By the way, I believe if you look at the TSB it will state that the high idle feature is intended to solve the problem of slow cab heating.
Old 11-15-2005 | 11:55 AM
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the whole idea of this poll was to show dodge that most everyone who has a manual trans. would like to have this option available, which it has, as of right now 93% do. If it didn't cost you anything, why would'nt you, just like having a tow hitch, or fog lights, they aren't hurting anything, if you don't use them, but they are nice to have.
Old 11-15-2005 | 07:49 PM
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Why do you think it's on automatic transmissions only? Do they need more RPM to keep warm? Are they just special?

those are my questions exactly, & this poll is intended to possibly get us some answers, don't really care how the voting goes, just wan't them to see how customers feel, just not logical to offer to autos & not manuals
Old 11-16-2005 | 10:02 AM
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O.K. here's a copy of the email I sent to Dodge, I'll post their reply as soon as I get one. Maybe others that are interested in this could send them an email also.

"My question concerns the driver activated (thru cruise control buttons) high idle feature on 05 Dodge Cummins powered trucks. Why is this available for auto trans trucks, but not for manuals? I would like to have this available for cold weather warm-ups. It seems to me it should be available as long as the parking brake is set & deactivates when the clutch is depressed (as autos do when the brake is depressed) I have taken 2 polls on this,

here : https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...ad.php?t=82846

And here: http://dieselram.com/cgi-bin/ultimat...;f=29;t=004789
Between these & owners I have personally talked to over 90% of owners would like to have this available. Does Dodge possibly intend to issue a TSB to allow this for slow warm-ups on manual trucks, as they did for autos? Thanks for any help & additional info on this issue.
Old 11-16-2005 | 10:47 AM
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well, got a "response" already what a load of B.S.

"Thank you for your recent email expressing interest in DaimlerChrysler
Motors Corporation.

We are proud of our accomplishments and the excitement our products are
generating. We are successful because we concentrate our resources in
areas of new product development, engineering and safety.

The information you are seeking is either unavailable from
DaimlerChrysler Motors Corporation or considered proprietary. General
information on the subject matter may be available through your local
Dodge dealer.

We appreciate your interest.

Thank you again for your email.

Sincerely,

Jennifer
Senior Staff Representative
DaimlerChrysler Customer Assistance Center"
Old 11-16-2005 | 09:32 PM
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imagine that
Old 11-17-2005 | 04:18 AM
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imagine that
yes, I figured I would get just such a "generic" response from DC. I was just hoping they would do a little better "check with your dealer", yea I'm sure they know all about it would probably get "it's because they use a different type of spark plug"


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