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Old 03-23-2004, 06:45 PM
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I didn't say I'd pay 42k for an F150.

That's MSRP for a fully optioned 2004 F150 Super Crew, which would be the one I would buy.

The MSRP for the 3500 CTD I'm looking at is 45k+, throw in the $2500.00 Dodge discount and you're very close to that F150 price.

The plan is to squeeze whats left of that figure down...~35-37k.

I figure if I wave that cash under the sales managers nose I'll get a pretty good deal.

Not interested in a bone stock F150, or a sports car, but thanks for the suggestion!

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If you are going to do some snow plowin' wouldn't the low end torque of the diesel be beneficial?

What about the extra weight to keep you stuck to the ground?

And not to ruffle any feathers but with 2500.00 off, I got my 04 2500 down below 34K out the door. I know it wasn't the best deal out there but I'm happy!!!
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Originally posted by stevenknapp
Well maintained I've seen a number of 200k gas trucks.
Yes, but have you seen any million mile gas trucks out there? The Cummins is a million mile engine. There are quite a number of our trucks out there that are at the million mile mark. I know of 3 in Ohio alone.
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Originally posted by Tfeore
When I got my first truck I was sure I never wanted to drive a car again.

As soon as I got my first diesel, I was sure I never want to drive a gasser again.

I am glad to have evolved.
Ditto!!!
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Having grown up on a farm, I've been around diesels all my life. Of the 8 vehicles I've owned (including my new one on order) 4 of them have been diesels (GM 6.2l, 2 7.3ls, and this Cummins). I will never buy another gas engine powered vehicle again. A diesel is superior to a gas engine in so many ways - power, fuel economy, longevity, just to name a few. So, my vote is for diesel, no matter what it's going to be used for. It's the future!
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Yes, but have you seen any million mile gas trucks out there? The Cummins is a million mile engine. There are quite a number of our trucks out there that are at the million mile mark. I know of 3 in Ohio alone

Those trucks are normally driven by long distance hauling, businesses, RV owners, stuff like that...

For example if I had a late '80s first gen truck I'd be wanting to trade up by now. Better trucks these days. Nicer trucks. A decked out new truck also has a lot of gizmos to break between now and a million miles too.

Just a thought.
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Dieselnewbie,

I'll bet you will find that if you get the Cummins, your toys will rise to the capacity of the truck (much like bills tend to rise to meet your increased income)...

You say you want to tow a boat, maybe haul some cycles. A few years down the road, could you see yourself with a Bigfoot 10.6 camper and towing the boat? How about a 5th wheel toy hauler with the cycles in the back, like a Patio Hauler or Komfort Karry All? Hey, you said money was no object...

Remember, if you are thinking about keeping the truck for many years, it needs to meet your future needs, as well as your short term plans. If you do something like the above, you need the Realyota with Cummins...

Not meant to be a brand war, I'm just saying that a good size camper or towable RV is beyond the capacity of your other two choices, and I would agree that both the others are high quality, well engineered and well built.
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While the up front cost of the diesel may seem like a detriment, my last truck paid back 66% of the original cost of the diesel option at trade in time. So it cost me 1500 bucks Canadian to own a diesel for 6 years and I saved a lot more than that on fuel. And that diesel just cannot be beat for towing. FWIW

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Another thing I forgot to ask:
Can you plow with a F150 supercrew or Toyota tundra (I would say no for sure on the f150 and dunno about the Toyota)
This plowing you talked about may limit your choices. Not saying either one won't push snow but will you have a warranty on it if something breaks.
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Originally posted by Jeff in TD
Dieselnewbie,

I'll bet you will find that if you get the Cummins, your toys will rise to the capacity of the truck (much like bills tend to rise to meet your increased income)...

Great theory! I like it!

Yeah you're right. It's easy to see that Ford crapping out alot sooner than the Dodge.

Spots:

Yes you can plow with an F150 with a very light duty plow but I know what you mean.

That truck wouldn't wear nearly as well plowing as a heavy duty pickup.

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I was looking for the same things as you 4 months ago. It also needed to fit a family of 6. The only 1/2 ton truck that will take a plow (I was told) is the Chevy. So If I wanted to by a 4wd truck, that I could plow with and tow and fit 6 and commute 100 miles a day in and have it as an INVESTMENT I had two choices.
1. A new 25,000 250 gasser that gets 10 mpg and will not last me 10 years and losses ALOT of $$ off the lot.
2. A used (Money is an object with me) 70k 2500 CTD quad with a plow. $20,000.

It was a no brainer and I had no idea at the time just how smart (dumb luck) of an Idea it is. I LOVE THIS TRUCK!!!! I will never go back..............never.....
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