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Old 02-25-2008 | 12:12 PM
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G56 failure

I am posting this for a buddy. he as an 05 with 21k miles 6 inch lift, 37" tires. smarty, air intake. before the smarty and lift he had torubles shifting gears from time to time. went to the dealer to get it checked. Got the infamous "could not duplicate problem". went on with life, installed the lift and tires, tranny started almost "slipping" like it would catch a gear and then slip and then start to move again. Took it back. dealer denied warranty. WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING AT THE TRANNY. he took it to a tranny shop (buddy) and the said it is probably the DMF. So like any selfrespecting cummins owner, he promptly bought a replacment. a 12 cb DD SBC clutch. after isntallation he took it out for a test drive. decided to install the smarty and test it out. the truck seemed fine but a little rattly. about a 100 miles later he heard a clunk (loud) as he was on the way to the store to buy some atf for the fluid change. he heard another clunk. parked it and pulled the tranny plug. oil with a TON of metal. magnetic, and the plug was full. He still has every gear and it still drives. What is the diagnosis. I would imagine we will tear into it. but it would nice to have a cost estimate before things get started. any special tools to take this apart. Let me know what you guys think the problem is. I personally suspect a bearing. I am not suspecting the clutch or improper install...but it very well could be. is it cheaper to find a pulled tranny than rebuild this obe?
Old 02-26-2008 | 09:20 PM
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You ever find out what it would cost to rebuild? Saw this posted on another forum http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/pts/582080705.html apparently a brand new g56 for a lot less than brand new price.
Old 02-26-2008 | 11:24 PM
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i actually saw that soon after i posted. I am not sure if my buddy called him. the tranny shop is tearing it apart today, so i should find out the failure.
Old 02-27-2008 | 08:55 PM
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So i have an update. Apprantly, it got stuck in reverse some time ago which pulled the dogs, which went into the bearings and gears. the dogs had dinner on the gears. anyway, it took out a bearing, and the output shaft is messed up. the tranny shop quoted him 4000 dollars for parts. which come directly from mercedes. That tranny on craigs list is for a 2wd and has different out put shafts.


So what are his options. Aftermarket, upgraded parts? pay out his you know what?

He was denied warranty due to the 6 inch lift and 35's. he has had the truck a little of 3 months. and he had the problem documented before the lift and tires were installed.
Old 02-27-2008 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by pooperscooper
So i have an update. Apprantly, it got stuck in reverse some time ago which pulled the dogs, which went into the bearings and gears. the dogs had dinner on the gears. anyway, it took out a bearing, and the output shaft is messed up. the tranny shop quoted him 4000 dollars for parts. which come directly from mercedes. That tranny on craigs list is for a 2wd and has different out put shafts.


So what are his options. Aftermarket, upgraded parts? pay out his you know what?

He was denied warranty due to the 6 inch lift and 35's. he has had the truck a little of 3 months. and he had the problem documented before the lift and tires were installed.
In his situation, the best option may be to consult an attorney.
Old 02-27-2008 | 09:13 PM
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cost me $4,450 to get mine rebuilt
there was a g56 with 5000 miles in dtr cassifieds for $1700 a while back
dealer said $4995 for a new one
Old 02-27-2008 | 09:24 PM
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https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...t=16156&cat=10
his # 734-673-4867
Old 02-28-2008 | 06:07 PM
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I will pass the information along, and have him give him a call. any idea if its a 4x4 or 4x2? and if it matters?

Is this something that "dodge" is going to be able to "prove" was the fault of the tires? I am not to familiar with trannys, and i have no idea what dogs are. are they are part than commonly fail due to higher loads?
Old 02-28-2008 | 10:15 PM
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my g56 started giving me trouble around 8k went round and round with dodge till they replaced it at 55k 7 mo later they tried everything new flywheel clutch fluid change. the first sympton was hanging in reverse and synch problems. they have to prove that it was the tires that caused it and their was 2 others needing the same tranny seemed to be a back order for some reason ??? he needs to talk to an attorney and do some research on it
Old 02-29-2008 | 03:19 AM
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www.originalmoparparts.com shows new G56 trans starting at around $3100
Old 02-29-2008 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hounddog
www.originalmoparparts.com shows new G56 trans starting at around $3100
Thanks for posting that site. It's a definite bookmark.

'05 G56 4x4, which is what the OP's buddy is looking for, if I understand correctly, is $2,552.25. Undoubtedly, shipping will add to that. They are in Tampa.
Old 02-29-2008 | 02:27 PM
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mine is an 06 2wd mega cab with the g56 and a 5.9. mine seems to make some noise after towing with it for several hundred miles, almost sounds like a bearing race begining to spin in a housing. Been to the dealer, and they can't hear anything, and only does it after long heavy loads, and dealer doesn't want to even change the fluid even on my request, and says the fluid is suppose to be good for 100K on the severe duty service, and for life on normal duty service. I am stumped....
Old 02-29-2008 | 11:05 PM
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He forked over the cash to the tranny shop. He needs his truck and does not have time to fight dodge. he will take it to them after he gets it fixed. dont know if he has any legal power at that point. I guess the tranny shop had to buy an 1800 dollar jig....
Old 03-01-2008 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by pooperscooper
Is this something that "dodge" is going to be able to "prove" was the fault of the tires? I am not to familiar with trannys, and i have no idea what dogs are. are they are part than commonly fail due to higher loads?
No, the tires and lift probably did not cuase the failure since it was having issues before.

Yes, he is SOL on the warranty. Dealer is already denying warranty and STAR will also based on the tires and lift. They have to prove it but it will cost way more than a new trans to drag it thru court and win.
Old 03-17-2008 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by pooperscooper
Apprantly, it got stuck in reverse some time ago which pulled the dogs, which went into the bearings and gears. the dogs had dinner on the gears. anyway, it took out a bearing, and the output shaft is messed up. the tranny shop quoted him 4000 dollars for parts. which come directly from mercedes.
You mean the reverse synchro hub detents?

Anyone know of a G56 that experienced shift fork or shift rail damage (especially reverse)? No synchro or bearing damage...


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