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Old 09-24-2006 | 01:43 PM
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Seems i read Cummins discouraged using additives in the fuel ?
this is what I read....multiple times
I suppose one could use the additives for peace of mind. Because I dont beleive they could HURT anything. But the jury is still out on if they actually help anything.
to each thier own.
Old 09-24-2006 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Wulfdiesel
this is what I read....multiple times
I suppose one could use the additives for peace of mind. Because I dont beleive they could HURT anything. But the jury is still out on if they actually help anything. to each thier own.
Probably only time will tell, but I remember in 1992 or 93 (?) when California mandated low sulfur fuel and assured everyone that it would not harm older engines............yeah, right.

Many leaky and ruined infection pumps later they 'fessed up that the new fuel was the cause.

I'm using PS every tank until we get some long term results with the ULSD.
Old 09-24-2006 | 07:59 PM
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http://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/gasoline...22003bosch.pdf
Old 09-24-2006 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by herb
Seems i read Cummins discouraged using additives in the fuel ?

I think Cummins discourages Large turbos and lots of fuel too.. and stacking boxes but everyone does that also..
Old 09-24-2006 | 08:38 PM
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I got in the practice of using fuel additives with diesels in marine service. Sometimes the fuel in a boat can sit there for a couple of years before being used, especially in a sailboat. My 1980 model sailboat with a Kubota engine ran as good on the day when I sold it recently as the day I bought it new. Never any repairs needed. My powerboat is 11 years old (200 HP Volvo turbo-diesel) and has always run perfect. These boats are in service almost year-round and I don't want gelling problems, bacterial growth or water in the fuel. I believe the fuel additives make a difference in prolonging the life of the engines. I use PS + MMO (16 oz) per tank in my truck. I buy the additives in gallon containers and then prepare the mixture in 16 oz cast off water bottles. If I take a long trip, I throw a couple of the bottles in the truck for use on the road. At 60,000 miles, the truck runs better than ever!
Old 09-24-2006 | 09:22 PM
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Do you use normal plastic water bottles?

Don't the fuel additives EAT thru the plastic??
Old 09-24-2006 | 09:38 PM
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Does anyone know if the white PS lubricates the pump the same as the silver? I've been running the silver since last winter, and I'm wondering if the white would be better for the winter. I don't think it gets cold enough here (Utah) to worry about the fuel gel problem. The extra lubrication, injector cleaning, and preventing algae are the main reasons I use the PS.
Old 09-24-2006 | 09:41 PM
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Linkey no workey...what does it say?
Old 09-24-2006 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pet05
Do you use normal plastic water bottles?

Don't the fuel additives EAT thru the plastic??
Yep, the plain old clear plastic bottles that you get when buying yuppie water. Never any failure of the bottles.
Old 09-24-2006 | 10:54 PM
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TRY AGAIN ....

http://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/gasoline...22003bosch.pdf

It should work from this link -

It was a study done by BOSCH that shows how important fuel lubrication is for Common Rail systems.
Old 09-24-2006 | 11:36 PM
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John Deere sells both a summer and winter formula fuel additive. They recommend that fuel additive be used in all of their diesel engines.
Old 09-25-2006 | 12:35 AM
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some silver ps and mmo works for me.
Old 09-25-2006 | 11:45 AM
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I'll be a fool also.

I wanted to add some additional notes regarding the Amalgamated product I have been using. I had learned about this product form the TDR forum. I am posting what is in the TDR formula as I had sent a request of to the website contact and the folowing is what they sent back. I have removed any pricing as I am not sure what is allowed on the site. If pricing is OK someone chime up and I will post that info also.

The additive has 652ptb (pounds per thousand barrels) of Cetane Improver Additive which will yield an increase of 6+ engine cetane numbers in most diesel fuels.
The additive has 35ptb (pounds per thousand barrels) of Detergent Additive to provide a Cummins L-10 Injector Cleaning Rating plus a "clean-up of existing deposits".
The additive has 15ptb (pounds per thousand barrels) of Lubricity Additive to lower the HFRR Lubricity to well below the 520um maximum lubricity limit in LSD "and" the new ULSD fuels.
The additive has 15ptb (pounds per thousand barrels) of Storage Stabilizer Additive to retard the natural degradation of diesel fuels for as much as 12 months during storage.
The additive has 5ptb (pounds per thousand barrels) of Corrosion & Rust Inhibitor agents to yield a NACE 1-A Corrosion Rating in most diesel fuels and the new ULSD fuels.
The additive has 35ptb (pounds per thousand barrels) of De-Icer chemical to prevent moisture fuel line freeze-up from 250ppm of moisture down to -40F or more.
The additive has 135ptb (pounds per thousand barrels) of Cold Flow Improver Additive to lower the CFPP and Pour Point by 25 degrees F in most LSD and ULSD fuels.

There are no other upgrade additive that can be put in to the above formulation that would benefit a diesel engine.

Thanks, Jeff
Old 09-25-2006 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by pet05
TRY AGAIN ....

http://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/gasoline...22003bosch.pdf

It should work from this link -

It was a study done by BOSCH that shows how important fuel lubrication is for Common Rail systems.

That one works. Good info, thanks!
Old 09-27-2006 | 09:25 PM
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Some people call them snake oil, but why is it so hard to believe in extra lube, and injector cleaner combined. Carb. cleaner cleans carbs., and brake cleaner cleans brake parts, so injector cleaner should clean injectors, unless I'm missing something .


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