Fleetguard LF3894 Oil Filter
08-02-2006, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by P.J
I have 2 3894's left over from my old truck, we are getting two very different responses here, this thread died with no clear resolution.
Copied from Genos (description of the LF16035):
Fleetguard Oil Filter (Stratapore) This filter can be used on ALL '89 - '06 Turbo Diesel engines. The advantage of this filter is the fluted can which simplifies removal from underneath using the Six-In-One-Wrench (API-100-120) or the Lisle End Cap Filter Wrench.
Fleetguard - '89-'06 Stratapore Oil Filter for Turbo Diesel Engines
So, they are in-fact still Stratopore, IS the only difference the fluted end?
How can this number be good for 89-06 but the LF 3894 is only to be used for 98.5-02 ?
Copied from Genos (description of the LF16035):
Fleetguard Oil Filter (Stratapore) This filter can be used on ALL '89 - '06 Turbo Diesel engines. The advantage of this filter is the fluted can which simplifies removal from underneath using the Six-In-One-Wrench (API-100-120) or the Lisle End Cap Filter Wrench.
Fleetguard - '89-'06 Stratapore Oil Filter for Turbo Diesel Engines
So, they are in-fact still Stratopore, IS the only difference the fluted end?
How can this number be good for 89-06 but the LF 3894 is only to be used for 98.5-02 ?
Might have to do with clearance, trying to remove/install...
Im running the 3894 on my 05 as we speak, was a little more difficult to install/remove than my 12V, but not by much....(intercooler pipe/turbo being in the way trying to turn the filter wrench, but it wasnt a big deal, just had to inch it loose)
08-02-2006, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnCA58
If you talk to the right person , this is what he or she should say
Here's how it works: First, the patented Venturi™ nozzle creates a low-pressure zone to help oil flow efficiently through the stacked-disc section. Then, the nozzle diffuser maximizes the flow through the pleated StrataPore™ media for minimum total-filter restriction.
It is that much better of a filter then the original stratapore filter , I would not be caught with the other filter on mine , plus if you have warrantee , and you have a bottom end failure. dont have older one on the engine. even if you look up the cellulose filters they sell , you will find a different # in that also between 2nd gen and 3rd gen engine. Also it is no longer known as Fleetguard Filters, it is called Cummins Filtration and wholly owned by Cummins.
Here's how it works: First, the patented Venturi™ nozzle creates a low-pressure zone to help oil flow efficiently through the stacked-disc section. Then, the nozzle diffuser maximizes the flow through the pleated StrataPore™ media for minimum total-filter restriction.
It is that much better of a filter then the original stratapore filter , I would not be caught with the other filter on mine , plus if you have warrantee , and you have a bottom end failure. dont have older one on the engine. even if you look up the cellulose filters they sell , you will find a different # in that also between 2nd gen and 3rd gen engine. Also it is no longer known as Fleetguard Filters, it is called Cummins Filtration and wholly owned by Cummins.
08-02-2006, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by goose2
I kind of wonder if you ever did have a lower end failure, you would get a void warrantee. I don't think they could void it because you used a diff. brand and not there's. There is laws that tell the manufacture they can't tell you you have to use there brand of filters and oil.
As long as you keep records of your oil changes you should be just fine...
08-03-2006, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Zarthur
Then why is one called premium filter and the other one standard and I get them stait from Cummins.
Originally Posted by rjm022
according to fleetguard-the oil filters are the same. this is their email response to my question.
Rob, the LF3894 and the LF16035 is the same inside except the shell. The LF3894 is round on the end and the LF16035 is fluted on the end for easy removal
Rob, the LF3894 and the LF16035 is the same inside except the shell. The LF3894 is round on the end and the LF16035 is fluted on the end for easy removal
They are both stratapore filters, seems that the only difference is the fluted end.
Im running the 3894 on my '05 right now, running JUST fine and I guaruntee its a heck of alot better than the POS pennzoil that was on it...
08-07-2006, 12:31 PM
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Nothing like finally getting a reply from Cummins Filtration division about the difference two months later..... this is from tech specialist
John, the LF3894 and the LF16035 is the same filter except the shell on the LF3894 is round and the shell on the LF16035 is fluted.
Both of these filters have been designed for the Cummins ISB engines.
If you have other questions, please feel free to let me know.
Have a GOOD DAY!!
Again been getting bad info from the Engine Company
So disregard my previous post about the filters.
John, the LF3894 and the LF16035 is the same filter except the shell on the LF3894 is round and the shell on the LF16035 is fluted.
Both of these filters have been designed for the Cummins ISB engines.
If you have other questions, please feel free to let me know.
Have a GOOD DAY!!
Again been getting bad info from the Engine Company
So disregard my previous post about the filters.
08-08-2006, 06:01 AM
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Well you did put up a good fight about it lol
Sure did, he had me worried I had three usesless filters out on my shelf. I will use these ones, then switch over the newer style.
08-08-2006, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by P.J
Sure did, he had me worried I had three usesless filters out on my shelf. I will use these ones, then switch over the newer style.
Its not any more difficult to get out...
08-08-2006, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Stacked97
Im using my 3894s since I have 5 of them sittin here...
Same filter, just not flat parts on the bottom for a filter wrench...
Same filter, just not flat parts on the bottom for a filter wrench...
At least on my 2nd gen.
Save yourselves the hassle of debating the FG filters. Yes, the 3894 is great filter, and the 16035 is probably even better.
But the best spin-on you can get for our trucks is the Donaldson Endurance. In spite of the fact that Amsoil pushes them so heavily, it's an incredible filter.
You could probably go 20K with it.
Also, why on earth would you try to save money by buying a cheap filter?? I can see using dino oil to save money-- but buying a crappy filter?
08-08-2006, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by HOHN
A filter wrench is useless on these truck anyway, because you can't get it on the end of the canister or off once the filter's loose.
At least on my 2nd gen.
Save yourselves the hassle of debating the FG filters. Yes, the 3894 is great filter, and the 16035 is probably even better.
But the best spin-on you can get for our trucks is the Donaldson Endurance. In spite of the fact that Amsoil pushes them so heavily, it's an incredible filter.
You could probably go 20K with it.
Also, why on earth would you try to save money by buying a cheap filter?? I can see using dino oil to save money-- but buying a crappy filter?
At least on my 2nd gen.
Save yourselves the hassle of debating the FG filters. Yes, the 3894 is great filter, and the 16035 is probably even better.
But the best spin-on you can get for our trucks is the Donaldson Endurance. In spite of the fact that Amsoil pushes them so heavily, it's an incredible filter.
You could probably go 20K with it.
Also, why on earth would you try to save money by buying a cheap filter?? I can see using dino oil to save money-- but buying a crappy filter?
Filter wrench and all, not even a strap wrench. Slide it inbetween the intercooler hose/filter, slide it up around the filter, and spin till you can get it by hand. Easy.
I dont see the fleetguard being a cheap filter, im saying that the non-fluted is cheaper than the fluted end, that I dont need anyway...
Why would you go 20k miles without changing your oil?
I change mine every 3-3.5k, havent had a hiccup yet.
I dont see the point in spending more than $9 for the fleetguard filter that is doing just fine. Why spend $20-30 on a filter to extend changes, when a change costs less than $30 as it is...
Not like im running some crapppppy pennzoil, or fram filter....
08-08-2006, 11:12 AM
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I see your point. Oil changes for me are a little more than $20, so I extend to 7k-10k on a change.
I'd never advocate going 20K on a change. But the fact that the filter could do it says a lot about, don't you think?
I'd never advocate going 20K on a change. But the fact that the filter could do it says a lot about, don't you think?
08-08-2006, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by HOHN
I see your point. Oil changes for me are a little more than $20, so I extend to 7k-10k on a change.
I'd never advocate going 20K on a change. But the fact that the filter could do it says a lot about, don't you think?
I'd never advocate going 20K on a change. But the fact that the filter could do it says a lot about, don't you think?
I spend about $30 total on changing my oil every 3-3.5k, still much cheaper than the $50-55 I was spending on Mobil 1, filter, I was spending changing the oil in my Trans Am...
Obviously you want the best filter you can get for longevity, but on the other hand bang for the buck should be considered, still fleetguards have been performing fine for plenty of folks is my only point, no need to overspend.
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