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Do Ford Diesels LUG better than our 5.9s?

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Old 08-06-2009 | 09:04 PM
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Do Ford Diesels LUG better than our 5.9s?

A buddy of mine says the 5.9 is a decent engine but itll never lug like a 7.3 or 6.0? is he on crack and if so what kind? i said inline 6 cylinders have longer throws and are designed to lug mor actually. am i on crack?he also says you always wanna be lugging with a diesel up hill or flat ground. Never drop a gear just lug? Whjen i lug my egts climb
Old 08-06-2009 | 09:08 PM
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Well i dont know bout fords lugging more than dodges but he is way wrong on lugging up a hill alway downshift. Lugging up a hill is a good way to stall a truck
Old 08-06-2009 | 09:14 PM
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lol what i thought. he is on crack
Old 08-06-2009 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rednekroper05
Well i dont know bout fords lugging more than dodges but he is way wrong on lugging up a hill alway downshift. Lugging up a hill is a good way to stall a truck

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A buddy of mine says the 5.9 is a decent engine but itll never lug like a 7.3 or 6.0? is he on crack and if so what kind? i said inline 6 cylinders have longer throws and are designed to lug mor actually. am i on crack?he also says you always wanna be lugging with a diesel up hill or flat ground. Never drop a gear just lug? Whjen i lug my egts climb
Yeah,,,, yer friend needs to put the crack pipe down.....

Lugging any motor is bad on bearings/valve train/egt's,,,,,

basically the whole motor diesel or otherwise!!!!!!!
Old 08-06-2009 | 10:55 PM
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Well considering the straight six engine predominately have the upper hand in low end torque, I would say the straight 6 will always lug better since its max power rpm is lower than a v-8 diesel. I think when most truckers on the road encounter a big hill the first thing they are gonna contemplate is what gear they will downshift to to keep the powerband in effect. With our trucks you downshift as necessary when towing to keep the rpms above 2000rpm, that is optimal for engine health.
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Time to find new friends. hahah
Old 08-07-2009 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by sallyman1
A buddy of mine says the 5.9 is a decent engine but itll never lug like a 7.3 or 6.0? is he on crack and if so what kind?
Bring him by, I will play...... A friend has a 95 PS 4X4 5 speed, his comments after driving Greenie?

Boy, I wish mine pulled down low like that.
Old 08-07-2009 | 10:10 AM
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The worst thing you could do to any internal combustion engine is to lug it. Any inline engine will make it's peak torque at a lower RPM then a V design one.
Old 08-07-2009 | 12:00 PM
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I have to disagree with all of you. The Fords do lug better than our Dodges. This is a proven FACT. The data to back up my claim comes from tow truck companies across the nation, who have lugged Ford Power Strokes to repair shops in all 50 states.
Old 08-07-2009 | 12:39 PM
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IIRC the 2006 Cummins 5.9 puts out its highest TQ at 1600 RPM's so ask him what RPM the 7.3 or 6 Oh no has it best TQ number at and I would bet its at a much higher RPM then 1600!
Old 08-07-2009 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by LeonT
I have to disagree with all of you. The Fords do lug better than our Dodges. This is a proven FACT. The data to back up my claim comes from tow truck companies across the nation, who have lugged Ford Power Strokes to repair shops in all 50 states.
You had me going there for a second. I felt my blood pressure rising and the rage building until I read the last half of the last sentence.

Oh, and I agree with your comment about Arizona in your location. My wife was in Tucson last month visiting my brother and we got a letter in the mail from the Tucson police dept. a couple of weeks ago with a picture of her in the truck in my signature with a fine for like 70mph in a 45. $215 or something like that. I thought about taking a picture of $215 cash and sending it to them like I read about somebody doing. I wonder what they would think of that.
Old 08-07-2009 | 01:23 PM
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My old 6.0L had absolutely NOTHING below 1500 or so. It would barley gain speed empty below that, let alone with a trailer. You had to get on top of the turbo to have any power, once you were up there it went along alright. The 7.3s were better, but still not that grate. The 6.7 is by far more powerful off idle and at low speed than either of those engines. I've never towed anything heavy with the 5.9 but I'm pretty sure it is the same way as the 6.7.
Old 08-07-2009 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by LeonT
I have to disagree with all of you. The Fords do lug better than our Dodges. This is a proven FACT. The data to back up my claim comes from tow truck companies across the nation, who have lugged Ford Power Strokes to repair shops in all 50 states.
That's funny right there!
Old 08-07-2009 | 01:27 PM
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i can say the new dmaxs wont get it down low like my dodge
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Originally Posted by sallyman1
A buddy of mine says the 5.9 is a decent engine...
That's mighty magnanimous of him!



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